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The places I feel sorry for are the ones who have spent a small fortune to make them corona safe, and now have to shut down anyway. Hardly seems fair.

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8 hours ago, tinfoilhat said:

By square foot surely? They roll that out when it comes to opening shops at Easter.

Perhaps, but what happens if a shop is a couple of square foot over the limit, are they really any safer then one a couple of square foot under the limit? 

 

Is a smaller shop with one door more or less safe then a slightly larger shop with two doors which allows for a proper one-way system. 

 

There are times when you need a crystal clear message and this is one of them. 

 

 

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3 hours ago, Anna B said:

The places I feel sorry for are the ones who have spent a small fortune to make them corona safe, and now have to shut down anyway. Hardly seems fair.

The restrictions after will be just the same as the restrictions before, so these places will be ready to open and be able to open more safely than after the first lockdown. 

 

Once the next lockdown is over then I'd hope regions would move to either tier 2 or 3 restrictions depending on local circumstances and then go down the tiers in a sensible progression rather than everyone move to tier 1 and work upwards. 

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8 hours ago, catmiss said:

The ‘Statement: F— Lockdown ‘ 300+ rave at Kelham Island on Halloween eve where the organiser  said he could get a £10,000 fine but it would be worth it sums up the attitude of a lot of people. In my neighbourhood Pre tier 3  we had police attending a large house party     juxtaposed with an elderly couple wrapped up in coats having a socially distanced garden meeting with family < 6.  It seems fewer people, perhaps fuelled by lockdown opposers/apathy/bloody mindedness/ are subscribing to the all in this together attitudes of the March lockdown  which may result in failure or extension of the current one

That might well happen. Australia have had no new cases in the last couple of days but their lockdown has been very strict and gone on for much longer than 4 weeks. 

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And we wonder why, (& moan), we're heading for another national lockdown? 

 

Just hearing on Radio Sheffield that S Y Police have issued 9 x £10,000 fines over the past few days in Sheffield due to mass gatherings of Covidiots.  

 

Apparently in one incident, captured on a police officer's body-cam, one woman questioned, wearing Halloween fancy dress is not only at one of these parties but she also admits to an officer, that she should actually be at home, self-isolating!   Well I'd hit her for a personal fine. 

 

People's stupidity, arrogance & lack of concern for others at the present time, never ceases to amaze me. 

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4 hours ago, Anna B said:

The places I feel sorry for are the ones who have spent a small fortune to make them corona safe, and now have to shut down anyway. Hardly seems fair.

There is more chance of you catching the virus walking around supermarkets and using public transport in some parts of the country than sat in a cafe having a cup of coffee in the day time, I’m not talking about the Bars.  A lot of effort and money has gone into making them safe.  Screens round the tables and waitresses service.  I also feel it hardly seems fair.

 

 

 

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2 hours ago, Baron99 said:

And we wonder why, (& moan), we're heading for another national lockdown? 

 

Just hearing on Radio Sheffield that S Y Police have issued 9 x £10,000 fines over the past few days in Sheffield due to mass gatherings of Covidiots.  

 

Apparently in one incident, captured on a police officer's body-cam, one woman questioned, wearing Halloween fancy dress is not only at one of these parties but she also admits to an officer, that she should actually be at home, self-isolating!   Well I'd hit her for a personal fine. 

 

People's stupidity, arrogance & lack of concern for others at the present time, never ceases to amaze me. 

Yeah apparently in Whitby it's rumoured one bloke was sent home from work, got tested, came back positive but spent all weekend out on the **** in the pubs

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There is talk of testing everyone in Liverpool.

 

How accurate are the COVID tests?

 

I have read about errors with the tests, false positives and false negatives.

 

Just immaginge that the tests are top notch and are 90% accurate.

A school or workplace has to be tested, out of 10 people tested, 1 person can be shown to have tested positive, but its an error. That would then close down whole or part of that workplace/school.

 

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22 minutes ago, El Cid said:

There is talk of testing everyone in Liverpool.

 

How accurate are the COVID tests?

 

I have read about errors with the tests, false positives and false negatives.

 

Just immaginge that the tests are top notch and are 90% accurate.

A school or workplace has to be tested, out of 10 people tested, 1 person can be shown to have tested positive, but its an error. That would then close down whole or part of that workplace/school.

 

This is why a lot of scientists have said mass testing may not be helpful, because it will end up shutting down a lot of the economy anyway due to false positives.

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4 hours ago, Baron99 said:

And we wonder why, (& moan), we're heading for another national lockdown? 

 

Just hearing on Radio Sheffield that S Y Police have issued 9 x £10,000 fines over the past few days in Sheffield due to mass gatherings of Covidiots.  

 

Apparently in one incident, captured on a police officer's body-cam, one woman questioned, wearing Halloween fancy dress is not only at one of these parties but she also admits to an officer, that she should actually be at home, self-isolating!   Well I'd hit her for a personal fine. 

 

People's stupidity, arrogance & lack of concern for others at the present time, never ceases to amaze me. 

I have been in Sainsbury Jackson at Gleadless Townend twice in the last few days and each time there was a different young man without a mask. They were both in their 30s and should know better. How would they feel if their parents caught Covid 19 off them and died.

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On another, more local note, what's protocol for mask wearing when dealing with delivery drivers? Tesco man had one on even though he didn't enter the house and I didn't. Should I have?

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57 minutes ago, tinfoilhat said:

On another, more local note, what's protocol for mask wearing when dealing with delivery drivers? Tesco man had one on even though he didn't enter the house and I didn't. Should I have?

Unless you were likely to sneeze all over him, I would say no.

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