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39 minutes ago, Anna B said:

No matter how Boris and co calculated it, I can guarantee it won't be enough. 

We have real hardship coming down the line.

 ........in your uncorroborated opinion.

 

Personally, I heard it all before.  For some people no matter what figure gets put forward they will scream it never will be enough. Boy Who Cried Wolf syndrome.

 

How many times over decades do we keep hearing the same.......   the NHS is always allegedly destitute and on the brink of collapse, despite vast amounts being thrown at it each year......  Benefits are allegedly always too little for people get by, despite the fact that successive governments have made numerous tweaks and changes to not only the policies for the type of benefits available...The minimum wage is always allegedy too low and people struggling to survive, despite the fact that it is been subject to increases almost every single year since it's Inception....

 

Now suddenly  the whines are starting that emergency Covid support is "not enough" for people to survive on despite the fact that it didn't even exist until the few weeks ago

 

Taxpayer money is finite. Some people need to realise that and stop making ridiculous predictions just to do a bit of point scoring against the government.

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1 hour ago, ormester said:

So OK Boris well take 41 m as Yorkshire people aren't worth it dignity  jarvis should resign 

Do be daft.  Being concerned about the high number of local hospital admissions and not wasting time before new local restrictions are implemented are not reasons why he should resign.

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4 hours ago, Anna B said:

Check the rules (if you can...)

You may well be allowed to go, if you're prepared to isolate on your return.

We are allowed. So why would we need to isolate? Just going elsewhere in UK. Might reconsider plans as it’s probably doable, just struggling to weigh it all up.

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57 minutes ago, ECCOnoob said:

 ........in your uncorroborated opinion.

 

Personally, I heard it all before.  For some people no matter what figure gets put forward they will scream it never will be enough. Boy Who Cried Wolf syndrome.

 

How many times over decades do we keep hearing the same.......   the NHS is always allegedly destitute and on the brink of collapse, despite vast amounts being thrown at it each year......  Benefits are allegedly always too little for people get by, despite the fact that successive governments have made numerous tweaks and changes to not only the policies for the type of benefits available...The minimum wage is always allegedy too low and people struggling to survive, despite the fact that it is been subject to increases almost every single year since it's Inception....

 

Now suddenly  the whines are starting that emergency Covid support is "not enough" for people to survive on despite the fact that it didn't even exist until the few weeks ago

 

Taxpayer money is finite. Some people need to realise that and stop making ridiculous predictions just to do a bit of point scoring against the government.

I don’t think you know what it’s like for people on benefits, I don’t think you know what it’s like for low earners and I’m pretty sure you don’t care either. And that’s fine.

 

I bet you could lose a third of your income and be totally fine. Thousands can’t. And that will be millions in a month or so. 

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Don't presume what you THINK I know and don't know about, you just set yourself up to look foolish. 

 

I have family members who are dependent on benefits for life and I've had to deal with the social services, support organisations and local government during both my past legal work and personal life.

 

Also, you cannot seriously believe that I went from comprehensive school to comfortable salary overnight. I have had plenty of periods on low or no income myself in my career. 

 

None of any of the above changes my perfectly valid point. Public money is not infinite and some people's definitions of "poverty" and "hardship" in this country really needs a reality check

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2 hours ago, ECCOnoob said:

 ........in your uncorroborated opinion.

 

Personally, I heard it all before.  For some people no matter what figure gets put forward they will scream it never will be enough. Boy Who Cried Wolf syndrome.

 

How many times over decades do we keep hearing the same.......   the NHS is always allegedly destitute and on the brink of collapse, despite vast amounts being thrown at it each year......  Benefits are allegedly always too little for people get by, despite the fact that successive governments have made numerous tweaks and changes to not only the policies for the type of benefits available...The minimum wage is always allegedy too low and people struggling to survive, despite the fact that it is been subject to increases almost every single year since it's Inception....

 

Now suddenly  the whines are starting that emergency Covid support is "not enough" for people to survive on despite the fact that it didn't even exist until the few weeks ago

 

Taxpayer money is finite. Some people need to realise that and stop making ridiculous predictions just to do a bit of point scoring against the government.

And yet there's always enough money for pet projects etc, and £7,000+ per day covid consultants, not to mention another £3,000 pay rise for every MP.....

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Comparison of support packages to authorities placed in Tier 3 shows that they're pretty much the same  £ per head of population.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/oct/21/tier-3-covid-lockdowns-how-each-regions-support-package-compares

 

Greater Manchester             -  £29 pp

South Yorksh ire                       - £29.29 pp

Liverpool / Merseyside         - £28.21 pp

Lancashire                                    - £28 pp

 

What I'm not clear about is how long this money is supposed to last.

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34 minutes ago, ECCOnoob said:

 

Don't presume what you THINK I know and don't know about, you just set yourself up to look foolish. 

 

I have family members who are dependent on benefits for life and I've had to deal with the social services, support organisations and local government during both my past legal work and personal life.

 

Also, you cannot seriously believe that I went from comprehensive school to comfortable salary overnight. I have had plenty of periods on low or no income myself in my career. 

 

None of any of the above changes my perfectly valid point. Public money is not infinite and some people's definitions of "poverty" and "hardship" in this country really needs a reality check

It is NOT infinate, but its frankly alarming what they are finding money for (without any kind of over sight) and what they're happy to vote against. 

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4 Nottingham University students fined £10,000 each & suspended from the university for organising party & lying to police. 

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-nottinghamshire-54631524

 

Good but its just a shame that we've had a number of high profile individuals who seem to be able to flout the law & escape punishment? 

 

As well as the home grown law breakers, saw a tv report last week which showed American rapper, Kanye West, coming out of a hotel in London, a day after landing, when in fact he should have been in isolation. 

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1 hour ago, Baron99 said:

4 Nottingham University students fined £10,000 each & suspended from the university for organising party & lying to police. 

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-nottinghamshire-54631524

 

Good but its just a shame that we've had a number of high profile individuals who seem to be able to flout the law & escape punishment? 

 

As well as the home grown law breakers, saw a tv report last week which showed American rapper, Kanye West, coming out of a hotel in London, a day after landing, when in fact he should have been in isolation. 

Stanley Johnson remains at large, doing what he wants with no consequences. 

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1 hour ago, Baron99 said:

4 Nottingham University students fined £10,000 each & suspended from the university for organising party & lying to police. 

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-nottinghamshire-54631524

 

Good but its just a shame that we've had a number of high profile individuals who seem to be able to flout the law & escape punishment? 

 

As well as the home grown law breakers, saw a tv report last week which showed American rapper, Kanye West, coming out of a hotel in London, a day after landing, when in fact he should have been in isolation. 

Perhaps going for a drive to test his eyes. Quite legitimate so I understand.

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1 hour ago, tinfoilhat said:

Stanley Johnson remains at large, doing what he wants with no consequences. 

 

1 hour ago, Longcol said:

Perhaps going for a drive to test his eyes. Quite legitimate so I understand.

Yawn. Please change the record. 

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