Carbuncle   0 #9973 Posted October 8, 2021 11 minutes ago, top4718 said: It exists yes, like normal flu exists, like colds exists etc etc its just the we don't go causing untold damage to society with those. You're blaming the lockdowns for the damage. The problem is that had we not had lockdowns the damage would have been worse. In other words, having lockdowns reduced the damage. You have things upside down. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Dardandec   32 #9974 Posted October 8, 2021 10 minutes ago, top4718 said: I don't you just read the biased version, lets pretend your right for a second though, less than 800 out of 67million are you think its still a pandemic 🤣 I bet there's more in hospital with ingrowing toenails. It exists yes, like normal flu exists, like colds exists etc etc its just the we don't go causing untold damage to society with those. But the hospitals were overwhelmed with Covid patients. You do know the NHS hasn't got a box full of trained medical staff that they can just get out every now and then when they need to yeah?  Get used to covid injections fella or take your chances, but don't stigmatise people who do choose to have them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
top4718   838 #9975 Posted October 8, 2021 2 minutes ago, Carbuncle said: You're blaming the lockdowns for the damage. The problem is that had we not had lockdowns the damage would have been worse. In other words, having lockdowns reduced the damage. You have things upside down. Lockdowns were fantastic, 12 million people missed vital screenings, cancer is on a huge increase but its ok due to them but we stopped a few people being ill for a few days so thats fine.  The blind leading the blind. 1 minute ago, Dardandec said: But the hospitals were overwhelmed with Covid patients. You do know the NHS hasn't got a box full of trained medical staff that they can just get out every now and then when they need to yeah?  Get used to covid injections fella or take your chances, but don't stigmatise people who do choose to have them. The media told the hospitals were overwhelmed, it wasn't reality. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Dardandec   32 #9976 Posted October 8, 2021 Just now, top4718 said: Lockdowns were fantastic, 12 million people missed vital screenings, cancer is on a huge increase but its ok due to them but we stopped a few people being ill for a few days so thats fine.  The blind leading the blind. Read post #10105 you really are struggling today. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Carbuncle   0 #9977 Posted October 8, 2021 (edited) 5 minutes ago, top4718 said: Lockdowns were fantastic, 12 million people missed vital screenings, cancer is on a huge increase but its ok due to them but we stopped a few people being ill for a few days so thats fine.  Every time that restrictions tightened within a couple of weeks hospitals began to recover capacity. Lockdowns led to increased healthcare capacity. It's the opposite of what you are arguing.  When the lockdowns came, the hospitals were not struggling to cope with people with covid who were well but people who had covid and were sick. Edited October 8, 2021 by Carbuncle Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Dardandec   32 #9978 Posted October 8, 2021 6 minutes ago, top4718 said: The blind leading the blind. The media told the hospitals were overwhelmed, it wasn't reality. But it was, the NHS was grossly understaffed before covid. When covid hit, what little "spare" resources that were available for cancer screening etc, then became tied up with covid. Do you not even slightly realise that? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
melthebell   863 #9979 Posted October 9, 2021 7 hours ago, Carbuncle said: Every time that restrictions tightened within a couple of weeks hospitals began to recover capacity. Lockdowns led to increased healthcare capacity. It's the opposite of what you are arguing.  When the lockdowns came, the hospitals were not struggling to cope with people with covid who were well but people who had covid and were sick. It's because he gets his teeth into every tiny simplistic thing without any deeper thought on the reasons why Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Annie Bynnol   612 #9980 Posted October 9, 2021 8 hours ago, top4718 said: Lockdowns were fantastic, 12 million people missed vital screenings, cancer is on a huge increase but its ok due to them but we stopped a few people being ill for a few days so thats fine.  The blind leading the blind. The media told the hospitals were overwhelmed, it wasn't reality. The last sentence is unintelligible(deliberately?) and the rest is guesswork and exaggeration mixed with Conspiracy Theory speak.    Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
onewheeldave   22 #9981 Posted October 9, 2021 (edited) 9 hours ago, Dardandec said: But it was, the NHS was grossly understaffed before covid. When covid hit, what little "spare" resources that were available for cancer screening etc, then became tied up with covid. Do you not even slightly realise that? Absolutely. It's not like we had a situation where NHS staff were so bored at having nothing to do in the mainly empty hospitals [with patients desperatly needing cancer screenings/treatment prevented from entering] that thousands of staff spent many hours practising dance routines to post on Tiktok, is it?   Edited October 9, 2021 by onewheeldave Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
nikki-red   308 #9982 Posted October 9, 2021 (edited) 32 minutes ago, onewheeldave said: Absolutely. It's not like we had a situation where NHS staff were so bored at having nothing to do in the mainly empty hospitals [with patients desperatly needing cancer screenings/treatment prevented from entering] that thousands of staff spent many hours practising dance routines to post on Tiktok, is it?   Hours practicing? Really? 😂  The ward a friend of mine works on did one, they all came in half an hour  before their night shift started to practise and film it.  Do you honestly believe staff were abandoning their patients to go and dance in the corridors? Edited October 9, 2021 by nikki-red Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Annie Bynnol   612 #9983 Posted October 9, 2021 8 minutes ago, onewheeldave said: Absolutely. It's not like we had a situation where NHS staff were so bored at having nothing to do in the mainly empty hospitals [with patients desperatly needing cancer screenings/treatment prevented from entering] that thousands of staff spent many hours practising dance routines to post on Tiktok, is it?   Wow! I am dumbfounded. Has anybody ever made a comment so ridiculous on so many levels. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Bargepole23 Â Â 337 #9984 Posted October 9, 2021 35 minutes ago, onewheeldave said: Absolutely. It's not like we had a situation where NHS staff were so bored at having nothing to do in the mainly empty hospitals [with patients desperatly needing cancer screenings/treatment prevented from entering] that thousands of staff spent many hours practising dance routines to post on Tiktok, is it? Â Â What an uninformed, and frankly, repugnant comment that is. If that's a reflection of you as a person you need to take a hard look at yourself. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...