Coronavirus - Part Two.

[Annie Bynnol 612]

5 hours ago, Anna B said:

I'm afraid nature will be making a lot of the decisions, winnowing out the weak and elderly (of which I'm one.) Harsh but a fact of life.

Buy in resources etc if you can afford them, it's always the way that the richer you are the better chance you have of surviving almost any situation. Glad you can afford it, but trust me most will not be able to. You are playing their game, which has been intended all along.

 

Yes the NHS is collapsing before our eyes thanks to 40 years of Neoliberalism and privatisation, now rife in the NHS. The outsourced private companies, of which there are many delivering care to the NHS, will continue to put their prices up every year, as do privatised care homes to ridiculous levels, because  the NHS is seen as a cash cow. But funding will not increase in line with prices, so the NHS/government will be unable to afford their services and it will continue to go down hill fast at the expense of the general public. It's already happening and the government who brought us to this point haven't a clue what to do about it, hence no word on Boris's 'oven ready plan' to fix social care. Social care will be the least of our problems.

 

I wonder how long they will try to blame Covid for the NHS decline  which has been in motion for years?

 

 

Your attack on the NHS is what I have come to expect from the new right.

The NHS the new right want is there to benefit a vociferous minority- it is supposed used to be there for all of us.

The NHS the new right want is only there to benefit the majority-it is supposed to be for all of us.

The NHS the new right wants selects the poor the voiceless for second rate treatment and encourages  " winnowing out the weak and elderly". 

Are you and your new right committee going to be selecting people for death, long term illnesses and suffering ?

Are you and your new right committee going to be telling doctors and health professionals not to treat otherwise healthy people?

 

Will you look into someone's eye and tell them that they are barred from NHS help because they are "...weak and elderly."

Will you choose between helping a terminal cancer patient over a survivable Covid sufferer?

Will you remove the right to NHS treatment because their DNA indicates less chance of survival.

 

How do you get to decide who is worth treating?

Well you don't, nowhere in the NHS 'handbook' does it say that some  groups need ..." winnowing out"

 

 

[Guest]

Much merriment in the comments in response to Twitter nonsense.  Have a read.  It's worth it.

[butlers 261]

Her bio . " on a mission to get truth into the mainstream"

 

 

Retweets David Icke.

 

Bout right

 

More if her work.

 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-5971319/amp/Conspiracy-theory-suggests-celebrities-snapped-black-left-eyes-ILLUMINATI.html

 

Edited August 27, 2021 by butlers

[Becky B 31]

9 hours ago, top4718 said:

Hooray you've mentioned conspiracy theorists again, must be some kind of record.

Tell me where the blue style masks are worn in wards where a virus is prevalent?

 

The only people who are pathetic are the ones swallowing this nonsense without questioning it.

My bold.

Covid cohort wards at the Northern General (during the height of all the lockdowns).

 

Though I do agree with you  (to an extent) on the mask issue.  They've changed the guidance now - smacks of shutting the stable door after the horse has bolted...

 

The blue surgical masks are used in operating theatres.  There is a degree of protection in terms of reducing spread of particle exhalation.

[hackey lad 3,980]

39 minutes ago, butlers said:

Her bio . " on a mission to get truth into the mainstream"

 

 

Retweets David Icke.

 

Bout right

 

More if her work.

 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-5971319/amp/Conspiracy-theory-suggests-celebrities-snapped-black-left-eyes-ILLUMINATI.html

 

Proper fruitcake

[butlers 261]

There's some interesting stuff in her back catalogue.

The " friend" story is being questioned ,so she's accusing folk of trolling her .

 

 

[butlers 261]

1 hour ago, Hecate said:

Much merriment in the comments in response to Twitter nonsense.  Have a read.  It's worth it.

If you read down the comments she replies he reported it to the yellow card scheme but did not attend hospital

[top4718 838]

51 minutes ago, Becky B said:

My bold.

Covid cohort wards at the Northern General (during the height of all the lockdowns).

 

Though I do agree with you  (to an extent) on the mask issue.  They've changed the guidance now - smacks of shutting the stable door after the horse has bolted...

 

The blue surgical masks are used in operating theatres.  There is a degree of protection in terms of reducing spread of particle exhalation.

They're used in operating theatres to prevent water droplets not air transmitted viruses, there's been no significant rise in hospitalisations since face coverings (yes you can use virtually anything) stopped being mandatory.

[Carbuncle 0]

9 minutes ago, top4718 said:

They're used in operating theatres to prevent water droplets not air transmitted viruses

I'm not sure what you intend by 'air transmitted virus' but the main method by which SARS-CoV-2 transmits is in respiratory (water) droplets.

[Longcol 604]

8 minutes ago, top4718 said:

They're used in operating theatres to prevent water droplets not air transmitted viruses, there's been no significant rise in hospitalisations since face coverings (yes you can use virtually anything) stopped being mandatory.

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/healthcare

 

Patients in hospital with covid 19 July 4,641.

Patients in hospital with covid 26 August  6,942.

 

Increase of 2,301 - as near as dammit 50% increase. 

 

On which planet isn't this increase significant?

 

 

[top4718 838]

46 minutes ago, Carbuncle said:

I'm not sure what you intend by 'air transmitted virus' but the main method by which SARS-CoV-2 transmits is in respiratory (water) droplets.

Its an aerosol virus that isn't water droplets.

43 minutes ago, Longcol said:

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/healthcare

 

Patients in hospital with covid 19 July 4,641.

Patients in hospital with covid 26 August  6,942.

 

Increase of 2,301 - as near as dammit 50% increase. 

 

On which planet isn't this increase significant?

 

 

The vaccines working then.

[Longcol 604]

2 minutes ago, top4718 said:

 

The vaccines working then.

Yep - hospitalisations as a percentage of infections have gone down significantly.