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On 23/08/2021 at 12:33, top4718 said:

Reported by the Dept of Health, 676 was the exact figure, 823 contracted the virus from the event, great idea Covid passports.

I've no idea about the numbers, but I think people should remember the number of infections especially amongst the young will have been very mild to the point they didn't even know they had it. Yet they will have built up their own antibodies and immunity to the disease because of it. Do they need a jab? Or a passport?

 

The number of deaths is probably non-existent among this group. 

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We have to keep in mind there were likely several thousand  active cases in Sheffield in the week leading up to Tramlines.

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17 minutes ago, Anna B said:

I've no idea about the numbers, but I think people should remember the number of infections especially amongst the young will have been very mild to the point they didn't even know they had it. Yet they will have built up their own antibodies and immunity to the disease because of it. Do they need a jab? Or a passport?

 

The number of deaths is probably non-existent among this group. 

Deaths by age band up to the end of 2020 are available here:  https://www.ons.gov.uk/aboutus/transparencyandgovernance/freedomofinformationfoi/deathsfromcovid19byageband . There are probably more up to date sources. Death is of course not the only kind of bad outcome available if you get covid. I think the big unknown is the impact of long covid. That is a difficult one because while a huge number have some kind of symptoms for a period of months, the cause of these of symptoms can be other than from covid. The severity and length of symptoms is also variable: debilitating breathlessness a year after you supposedly recovered from covid is a bit different from taking a while to return to full fitness after being off your feet for a couple of weeks. The whole thing seems to be a tangle.

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1 hour ago, Anna B said:

I've no idea about the numbers, but I think people should remember the number of infections especially amongst the young will have been very mild to the point they didn't even know they had it. Yet they will have built up their own antibodies and immunity to the disease because of it. Do they need a jab? Or a passport?

 

The number of deaths is probably non-existent among this group. 

I fully agree which is a reason I find the push for vaccination (with coercion) in this age group, they really don't need it. Tramlines is open to all ages though lets not forget.

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A Channel 4 documentary yesterday, Wuhan ‘lab leak’, featured several eminent scientists and pretty much stated it came out of the Wuhan lab.
The gist was when a organism jumps species, in the first month it mutates to become more infectious in that species.
 Not the case with Covid.
 It was also stated the lab was doing controversial 'gain of function' work on it. GOF is where, to anticipate future threats, an organism is enhanced. The lab had funding from the US and China for this and was only using level 2 security protocols.

https://inews.co.uk/news/politics/wuhan-lab-leak-explosive-channel-4-documentary-provides-compelling-evidence-supporting-covid-origin-theory-1161167

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21 minutes ago, ChrisIB said:

A Channel 4 documentary yesterday, Wuhan ‘lab leak’, featured several eminent scientists and pretty much stated it came out of the Wuhan lab.
The gist was when a organism jumps species, in the first month it mutates to become more infectious in that species.
 Not the case with Covid.
 It was also stated the lab was doing controversial 'gain of function' work on it. GOF is where, to anticipate future threats, an organism is enhanced. The lab had funding from the US and China for this and was only using level 2 security protocols.

https://inews.co.uk/news/politics/wuhan-lab-leak-explosive-channel-4-documentary-provides-compelling-evidence-supporting-covid-origin-theory-1161167

Unfortunately, this 'documentary' was extremely misleading. Lots of people will have watched and concluded, as you have done, that they 'pretty much stated it came out of the Wuhan lab'. The 'documentary'  did not actually do this though there was a whole lot of implying. Pretty sh*t really. As amazing as it might seem to you, no evidence was actually provided that it came from the Wuhan lab. Rather there was a whole lot of innuendo.

 

I think the orthodoxy amongst virologists is that it is very unlikely to have come from the Wuhan lab. Curiously, in a 'documentary' with a host of talking heads, (I think) no virologists appeared and there were certainly no representatives of (what I think is) the orthodoxy.

 

 The 'documentary' can be seen here https://www.channel4.com/programmes/did-covid-leak-from-a-lab-in-china .

Edited by Carbuncle

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First they came for the unvaccinated-, and I did not speak out—
     Because I was double jabbed.

Then they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out—
     Because I was not a Socialist.

Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out—
     Because I was not a trade unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
     Because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.

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Interesting to see that the Covid Symptom Study (a collaboration between Kings College and Guys and St Thomas's hospitals and led by epidemiologist Tim Spector) has reported that the effective of vaccines greatly wanes after six months hence the need for a second booster.

 

I remember getting absolutely lambasted on here a few weeks ago when I said that an Israeli study had found the same results.

 

You'd better get back in the queue now you're no longer "fully jabbed" 🤣

Edited by top4718

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8 hours ago, The_DADDY said:

First they came for the unvaccinated-, and I did not speak out—
     Because I was double jabbed.

Then they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out—
     Because I was not a Socialist.

Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out—
     Because I was not a trade unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
     Because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.

Martin Niemöller was a Hitler supporter and anti-Jewish who made a speech, a confessional speech which was much later turned into poems by others.

 

What are you confessing?

What are you changing your mind about?

The structure of line 2 should read:

"Because I was not double jabbed" in order to fit.

 

Making light of a piece of literature which has become associated with the murder of tens of millions of disabled, political opponents, religious and ethnic groups and particularly Jewish genocide is bad and a fail.

Edited by Annie Bynnol

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5 minutes ago, Annie Bynnol said:

Martin Niemöller was a Hitler supporter and anti-Jewish who made a speech, a confessional speech which was much later turned into poems by others.

 

What are you confessing?

What are you changing your mind about?

The structure of line 2 should read:

"Because I was not double jabbed" in order to fit.

 

Making light of a piece of literature which has become associated with the murder of tens of millions of disabled, political opponents, religious and ethnic groups and particularly Jewish genocide is bad and a fail.

What do you expect, that's all they have, fit their agenda into emotive easy to digest slogans and soundbites as they don't have any truth or facts.

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