Mister Gee 797 #5437 Posted June 6, 2021 27 minutes ago, butlers said: What's astonishing is of the 40 lowest vaccinated counties in the US 38 are Republican majority voting. The reverse is almost true of the highest vaccinated counties think the split is 36/4 D/R. This week's big talking point is attacking Dr Fauci, can't the politicians see this has a knock on that's going to end up costing lives. It's shameless. From memory ,Presidents Carter, Clinton, Bush Jnr and Obama had public vaccinations ,while the last President who spread covid denial kept quiet. Since when did the USA have counties? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Jim Hardie 495 #5438 Posted June 6, 2021 1 minute ago, Mister Gee said: Since when did the USA have counties? A couple of hundred years. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
RollingJ 1,907 #5439 Posted June 6, 2021 Many years - it is one of their many administrative levels. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
altus 513 #5440 Posted June 6, 2021 2 minutes ago, Mister Gee said: Since when did the USA have counties? States are divided into them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Mister Gee 797 #5441 Posted June 6, 2021 I’d forgotten about Hazzard County in the famous TV show, silly me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
altus 513 #5442 Posted June 6, 2021 32 minutes ago, butlers said: What's astonishing is of the 40 lowest vaccinated counties in the US 38 are Republican majority voting. The reverse is almost true of the highest vaccinated counties think the split is 36/4 D/R. This week's big talking point is attacking Dr Fauci, can't the politicians see this has a knock on that's going to end up costing lives. It's shameless. From memory ,Presidents Carter, Clinton, Bush Jnr and Obama had public vaccinations ,while the last President who spread covid denial kept quiet. It would be ironic if, after losing the last election because he convinced his supporters not to use postal voting, Trump loses the next one because he convinced his supporters to not have the vaccine, resulting in them dying. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Carbuncle 0 #5443 Posted June 6, 2021 10 minutes ago, altus said: It would be ironic if, after losing the last election because he convinced his supporters not to use postal voting, Trump loses the next one because he convinced his supporters to not have the vaccine, resulting in them dying. Still at least his base have ready access to bleach, strong lights and the Walter Reed Medical Center. Without covid, Trump surely would have won re-election and would have had four years to work on lifting the limit on presidents only having two terms. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Guest makapaka #5444 Posted June 6, 2021 It’s pretty clear to me that there’s no real end to all this in terms of restrictions. the language used is worrying- “getting peoples freedoms back” - I wasn’t aware we’d given them away? Matter of time before we start going back to further restrictions and lockdown etc. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
petemcewan 27 #5445 Posted June 6, 2021 God preserve us from "economic with the truth" toad Matt Hancock. Quote Matt Hancock massively exaggerated the rate of vaccination in coronavirus hotspot Bolton in the House of Commons today. The health secretary told MPs that jabs were going into arms in the northwest town at a rate of “tens of thousands every single day”. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
FIRETHORN1 53 #5446 Posted June 7, 2021 I've had both my Covid jabs, although I did try to consider the potential risks before doing so and I do respect the views of people who are vax-hesitant or who are out and out anti-vaxxers. All the official advice from the Government, the Government scientists etc, was to go ahead and have the vax as soon as it was offered but I don't consider the anti-vaxxers to all be conspiracy-theorists or paranoid lunatics - plenty of them seem to be totally rational, highly respected doctors, scientists & other health professionals who genuinely seemed to believe that the vaccine was insufficiently trialled, carried lots of potential future health risks and was just another way for the big Pharmaceutical companies and their cronies to make yet more money. Having considered both sides of the argument, I decided to go ahead and have the 2 jabs because I naively believed that it would make me less likely to catch or spread Covid - or mean that I would be less likely to get seriously ill if I did catch Covid. I also naively believed that a large uptake of the vaccination programme would help free us from the tyranny of lockdowns, mask-wearing and endless, costly PCR testing to travel and having to quarantine and/or isolate on return. I now feel that I've been conned into taking the jabs, because those of us who are fully vaccinated are being treated exactly the same as those who haven't been vaccinated at all. I feel that I've taken a potentially risky vaccine, yet I can still catch or spread Covid, I still have to wear masks and abide by the remaining lockdown and distancing rules and I'm no better off or more free than I was before. Two of my friends have recently been to and returned from a holiday in an amber-list country. Both are in their 60's and in good health. One was fully vaccinated and the other has refused to be vaxxed, yet they both had to take and pay for tests on the way out and the way back and both are expected to self-isolate now they are home. If I could go back a couple of months, I too would have refused the vaccine. Too bloody late now - and it's my own fault for being a gullible sheep, too quick to trust the official advice! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
The_DADDY 3,342 #5447 Posted June 7, 2021 2 minutes ago, FIRETHORN1 said: I've had both my Covid jabs, although I did try to consider the potential risks before doing so and I do respect the views of people who are vax-hesitant or who are out and out anti-vaxxers. All the official advice from the Government, the Government scientists etc, was to go ahead and have the vax as soon as it was offered but I don't consider the anti-vaxxers to all be conspiracy-theorists or paranoid lunatics - plenty of them seem to be totally rational, highly respected doctors, scientists & other health professionals who genuinely seemed to believe that the vaccine was insufficiently trialled, carried lots of potential future health risks and was just another way for the big Pharmaceutical companies and their cronies to make yet more money. Having considered both sides of the argument, I decided to go ahead and have the 2 jabs because I naively believed that it would make me less likely to catch or spread Covid - or mean that I would be less likely to get seriously ill if I did catch Covid. I also naively believed that a large uptake of the vaccination programme would help free us from the tyranny of lockdowns, mask-wearing and endless, costly PCR testing to travel and having to quarantine and/or isolate on return. I now feel that I've been conned into taking the jabs, because those of us who are fully vaccinated are being treated exactly the same as those who haven't been vaccinated at all. I feel that I've taken a potentially risky vaccine, yet I can still catch or spread Covid, I still have to wear masks and abide by the remaining lockdown and distancing rules and I'm no better off or more free than I was before. Two of my friends have recently been to and returned from a holiday in an amber-list country. Both are in their 60's and in good health. One was fully vaccinated and the other has refused to be vaxxed, yet they both had to take and pay for tests on the way out and the way back and both are expected to self-isolate now they are home. If I could go back a couple of months, I too would have refused the vaccine. Too bloody late now - and it's my own fault for being a gullible sheep, too quick to trust the official advice! Don't be hard on yourself. You aren't the 1st person taken in by this whole thing and you won't be the last. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
butlers 223 #5448 Posted June 7, 2021 Seen today's figures about the 12,000 plus confirmed cases and the relative rates of hospitalization? 93 percent of nhs staff have been vaccinated. Plenty of the anti vax people are spreading outright untruths to be generous. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...