tinfoilhat   11 #5101 Posted May 20, 2021 Just now, makapaka said: No I agree -  I was referring to people in the former circumstance rather than the latter. But it's a fair comment. Nobody died because they didn't have a fortnight in Benidorm. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Guest makapaka   #5102 Posted May 20, 2021 5 minutes ago, tinfoilhat said: But it's a fair comment. Nobody died because they didn't have a fortnight in Benidorm. Exactly - I would however  have sympathy for anyone struggling for refunds for holidays booked before the pandemic - as the other poster suggested. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
ECCOnoob   1,021 #5103 Posted May 20, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, makapaka said: Really wish people would just stop moaning about not going abroad. You do realise people go abroad for reasons other than holidays.  What about all those who have family or other relatives who they have been cut off from for potentially over a year.  What about those who have businesses or properties or other interests abroad which needs attending to and they've all been suspended because of the restrictions.  What about all those thousands of people directly or indirectly employed or financially committed to the travel industry. Airlines, hotels, tour operators, resorts or even in some places entire towns who have been crippled by the restriction.  Maybe try looking at the bigger picture. Just remember that the lockdowns and the recent deployment of the vaccine was not and is never about immunity from coronavirus. It was always about reducing the burdens on the hospitals and reducing the numbers of deaths.  Nobody has ever said that coronavirus will go away. Nobody is ever said that nobody will ever get ill from it again. It might be with us for the rest of eternity. Just like other viruses.  Just how long you think it's appropriate for the world to stop?  Edited May 20, 2021 by ECCOnoob Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Guest makapaka   #5104 Posted May 20, 2021 (edited) 4 hours ago, ECCOnoob said:  Just how long you think it's appropriate for the world to stop?  Who said anything about the wanting the world stopping?   Edited May 20, 2021 by makapaka Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Guest makapaka   #5105 Posted May 20, 2021 6 hours ago, apelike said: From what I have read in the past new variants will naturally spring up quicker because of the vast population we have in the world. They may be more contagious but it is thought that they generally do less harm and we may actually end up with some in the future that are no worse that just having a cold. BTW they may not necessarily have been brought into the country as its natural for variants to occur anywhere. Yes - surely the ideal is a variant to emerge that is more transmissible but less dangerous.  Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
The Joker   10 #5106 Posted May 20, 2021 On 17/05/2021 at 15:40, the_bloke said: Apparently Jeremy Corbyn is still refusing to admit or deny as to having his Covid vaccination.  If you want to speculate on how the pandemic would have played out under Corbyn's Labour government, give that some thought. Wow. You really are clutching at straws, aren't you?  Shagger Boris won't confirm or deny how many kids he's fathered, but funnily enough, that didn't stop him becoming PM 🤣 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
apelike   10 #5107 Posted May 20, 2021 1 minute ago, The Joker said: Wow. You really are clutching at straws, aren't you?  Shagger Boris won't confirm or deny how many kids he's fathered, but funnily enough, that didn't stop him becoming PM 🤣 And that has what to do with coronavirus..... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
The Joker   10 #5108 Posted May 20, 2021 Just now, apelike said: And that has what to do with coronavirus..... About as little as Corbyn confirming or denying whether or not he's been vaccinated Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
the_bloke   17 #5109 Posted May 21, 2021 (edited) 15 hours ago, The Joker said: Wow. You really are clutching at straws, aren't you?  Shagger Boris won't confirm or deny how many kids he's fathered, but funnily enough, that didn't stop him becoming PM 🤣 The deflection is strong here isn't it, that's two threads you've replied to now with some 'what about Boris' reply.  The point is that Corbyn is the elected MP for a constituency that has one of the lowest vaccine rates in the country; if your local MP won't confirm he's had the vaccine, then what does that say to those that refuse it?  And yes; if in some dream world he'd ever been PM, can you imagine him still refusing to say if he'd had the jab? Edited May 21, 2021 by the_bloke Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
tinfoilhat   11 #5110 Posted May 21, 2021 13 minutes ago, the_bloke said: The deflection is strong here isn't it, that's two threads you've replied to now with some 'what about Boris' reply.  The point is that Corbyn is the elected MP for a constituency that has one of the lowest vaccine rates in the country; if your local MP won't confirm he's had the vaccine, then what does that say to those that refuse it?  And yes; if in some dream world he'd ever been PM, can you imagine him still refusing to say if he'd had the jab? That whataboutery is catching! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
andyofborg   11 #5111 Posted May 21, 2021 1 hour ago, tinfoilhat said: That whataboutery is catching! it's more contagious than covid Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
butlers   259 #5112 Posted May 22, 2021 https://www.google.com/amp/s/medicalxpress.com/news/2021-05-toll-mounts-true-covid-death.amp     Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...