altus   514 #3253 Posted December 23, 2020 14 minutes ago, El Cid said: The Government is being urged to give as many people as possible an initial dose of a Covid vaccine - rather than preserving stocks so there is enough for second jabs.  The numbers are "straightforward". You give one dose you get 91% [protection] you give two doses and you get 95% - you are only gaining 4% for giving the second dose A bit more perspective on that - Coronavirus: Vaccinate more people with one dose, urges Tony Blair.   Reminder to all: Don't forget to post links to your sources if you are quoting other sites. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
RiffRaff   10 #3254 Posted December 23, 2020 9 minutes ago, altus said: A bit more perspective on that - Coronavirus: Vaccinate more people with one dose, urges Tony Blair.   Reminder to all: Don't forget to post links to your sources if you are quoting other sites. Ah! The great world authority on everything, Mr.Blair, has spoken...! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Runningman   136 #3255 Posted December 23, 2020 Just seen on TV that the virus is now present in Antarctica !!!!!!!!!!!!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
onewheeldave   22 #3256 Posted December 23, 2020 On 22/12/2020 at 12:40, Kidorry said: I do not think that some people realise the danger they are putting themselves and other people in. The other day at Gleadless Townend there were 5 women, I would say in their mid 50s/60s in a group about a foot away from each other and none of them were wearing masks. I do not care if they catch covid-19 but it is the poor souls that they could pass it on too. Indoors or outdoors? If they were outdoors, very little chance of transmission. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Litotes   63 #3257 Posted December 23, 2020 15 minutes ago, Runningman said: Just seen on TV that the virus is now present in Antarctica !!!!!!!!!!!!!! And in Iceland... oh wait, that's the shop... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
apelike   10 #3258 Posted December 23, 2020 49 minutes ago, RiffRaff said: Ah! The great world authority on everything, Mr.Blair, has spoken...! His idea is to vaccinate as many young as possible as according to him its them that are the main spreaders of the virus. Its seems he and others really don't seem to realise that having a vaccination for covid only protects the person vaccinated after some time and does not mean it cannot be spread on after being vaccinated. He also wants his old idea of a ID card system resurrected because of covid.  https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-55410349 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
RollingJ   1,908 #3259 Posted December 23, 2020 48 minutes ago, apelike said: His idea is to vaccinate as many young as possible as according to him its them that are the main spreaders of the virus. Its seems he and others really don't seem to realise that having a vaccination for covid only protects the person vaccinated after some time and does not mean it cannot be spread on after being vaccinated. He also wants his old idea of a ID card system resurrected because of covid.  https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-55410349 He's a (failed) politician, and even (failed) politicians like to spout rubbish, especially if they've been out of the public eye for a while. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
El Cid   194 #3260 Posted December 23, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, RiffRaff said: Ah! The great world authority on everything, Mr.Blair, has spoken...! I did try to keep politics out of this.  A study, published in the New England Journal of Medicine, found that vaccine efficacy between the first and second doses was 52% So anything over 50% would mean vaccinating with one vaccine would be befeficial, although 2% over 50% is perhaps not worth the effort. But 2% if its 10 million people is a lot of people helped, perhaps other vaccines will be ready soon. https://www.bmj.com/content/371/bmj.m4826 Edited December 23, 2020 by El Cid Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Runningman   136 #3261 Posted December 23, 2020 1 hour ago, Runningman said: Just seen on TV that the virus is now present in Antarctica !!!!!!!!!!!!!! I am led to believe that somebody with the virus entered Antarctica and there are no test facilities for anyone entering the location ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
RiffRaff   10 #3262 Posted December 23, 2020 New variant causing concern, even more transmissible. Before you say "We know"....no. This is another. Stemming from South Africa. Anyone who's just been, and/or knows anyone who has, is "requested" to quarantine immediately. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
melthebell   862 #3263 Posted December 23, 2020 Study suggests a national lockdown one week earlier couldve saved 20.000 lives https://www.independent.co.uk/news/health/covid-lockdown-deaths-england-b1778171.html 11 minutes ago, RiffRaff said: New variant causing concern, even more transmissible. Before you say "We know"....no. This is another. Stemming from South Africa. Anyone who's just been, and/or knows anyone who has, is "requested" to quarantine immediately. Just seen that on the telly, Tier 4 restrictions for other parts of the country, New national lockdown in the new year  Happy Christmas and a happy new year Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
RiffRaff   10 #3264 Posted December 23, 2020 1 hour ago, enntee said: Blair can go whistle. In a nutshell.  29 minutes ago, melthebell said: Study suggests a national lockdown one week earlier couldve saved 20.000 lives https://www.independent.co.uk/news/health/covid-lockdown-deaths-england-b1778171.html Just seen that on the telly, Tier 4 restrictions for other parts of the country, New national lockdown in the new year  Happy Christmas and a happy new year And to you, mel. God help us all, matey. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...