Coronavirus - Part Two.

[onewheeldave 22]

11 minutes ago, tinfoilhat said:

I don’t know, I thought you had the data, because you said a lockdown will kill more than covid.

No, he didn't.

15 minutes ago, MuteWitness said:

Why wood good people want a lockdown which could kill more than covid?

 

15 minutes ago, MuteWitness said:

Why wood good people want a lockdown which could kill more than covid?

Most harm in this world done by humans to other humans, has/is been done by well intentioned, but, deluded people. That is certainly the case when it comes to Covid.

 

The authorities and their pet media have scaremongered with the covid statistics, and mainly ignored the equally horrific stats about deaths from mental heath issues, unemployment, destroyed small businesses and denied medical treatment- the public have been denied important facts and important opposing expert viewpoints.

Edited October 31, 2020 by onewheeldave

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5 minutes ago, MuteWitness said:

Says ....could.  refusing treatment for other illnesses and suicides continuing to rise

 

But this is pure speculation like everything Boris says 

 

The NHS aren't refusing treatment and Boris has encouraged people to still seek treatment where needed. 

[RJRB 688]

1 hour ago, West 77 said:

The announcement will be two days earlier than planned as a consequence of the leak. To anyone reasonable it's understandable that today's unplanned announcement has been delayed. 

I think that it just shows the disarray amongst the experts and the Cabinet.

The original timetable stated a Cabinet meeting at 1.30 followed by a briefing at 4 p.m

 This suggests that someone believed that a plan was in place prior to the meeting,but disagreements then led to the various postponements.

The so called leaks are usually just a method of conditioning the public rather than some bolt from the blue.

 

 

Edited October 31, 2020 by RJRB

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Just now, RJRB said:

I think that it just shows the disarray amongst the experts and the Cabinet.

The original timetable stated a Cabinet meeting at 1.30 followed by a briefing at 4 p.m

 This suggests that someone believed that a plan was in place prior to the meeting,but disagreements then led to the various postponements.

 

 

Or Boris just wanted to see the result of the England Italy game. 

[tinfoilhat 11]

8 minutes ago, MuteWitness said:

Says ....could.  refusing treatment for other illnesses and suicides continuing to rise

 

But this is pure speculation like everything Boris says 

 

What do you think a covid case would do to people on say, a ward where people are getting treatment for cancer, or maybe a cardiac care unit?

[onewheeldave 22]

Didn't someone say earlier that there was to be a vote about the potential lockdown to happen next week before the anouncment? If so, what has happened to that vote now?!

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1 minute ago, onewheeldave said:

Didn't someone say earlier that there was to be a vote about the potential lockdown to happen next week before the anouncment? If so, what has happened to that vote now?!

Boris has said that a vote will still go ahead and these plans will start from Thursday IF agreed

Edited October 31, 2020 by Delayed

[MuteWitness 10]

1 minute ago, tinfoilhat said:

What do you think a covid case would do to people on say, a ward where people are getting treatment for cancer, or maybe a cardiac care unit?

Thought they were kept on seperate wards?

1 minute ago, Delayed said:

Boris has said that a vote will still go ahead and these plans will start from Thursday IF agreed

Still worth trying to contact MPs then do you think ?

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2 minutes ago, MuteWitness said:

Thought they were kept on seperate wards?

Still worth trying to contact MPs then do you think ?

Yes but who's to say he hasn't?

[melthebell 863]

22 minutes ago, MuteWitness said:

Well how many will covid kill?

 

in theory, going unchecked 100s of thousands? a million, 2 million? who knows

[onewheeldave 22]

32 minutes ago, MuteWitness said:

Well how many will covid kill?

 

Whatever the number covid actually kills, you can be sure that the number of deaths the authorities attribute to covid, will be far, far higher. Especially when the true horrific consequences of deaths caused by their lockdown start to become apparent- at that point it is not in their best interests to pursue honesty with regard to the deaths attributed to covid.

 

Deaths with covid, are not deaths from covid, especially now we are starting to see how many people have had covid and remained completely free of symptoms.

9 minutes ago, melthebell said:

in theory, going unchecked 100s of thousands? a million, 2 million? who knows

The same is true of course, of the numbers of deaths [caused  by the lockdown] from mental health issues, unemployment, lack of access to medical treatment etc....... could be 100s of thousands? a million, 2 million? who knows?

Edited October 31, 2020 by onewheeldave

[nikki-red 308]

34 minutes ago, MuteWitness said:

Thought they were kept on seperate wards?

 

They are. Anyone with a positive test is moved to a dedicated Covid ward. If they were on a bay with other people before their result the whole bay is then treated as exposed and is barrier nursed.

People who are booked in have to isolate before being admitted, obviously it’s a different matter for people admitted through A&E.

 

Edited October 31, 2020 by nikki-red