Coronavirus - Part Two.

[Longcol 604]

How many billions have HMG thrown at "Track & Trace" - only to find that their main IT system appears to be an Excel spreadsheet.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/oct/05/ministers-accused-of-putting-lives-at-risk-with-covid-data-error

 

Can you get any more incompetent?

[onewheeldave 22]

2 minutes ago, Longcol said:

How many billions have HMG thrown at "Track & Trace" - only to find that their main IT system appears to be an Excel spreadsheet.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/oct/05/ministers-accused-of-putting-lives-at-risk-with-covid-data-error

 

Can you get any more incompetent?

Interestingly that article also contains today's UK death figure- it's dropped from 33 to 19

 

Also here-

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/?_ga=2.176901153.522971448.1601853346-201961966.1585217610

 

Fascinating to witness a complete lack of interest in that highly relevant figure, while people rush around focused entirely on which celebrity lockdown breaker to scapegoat next and the ever rising positive infection test results.

 

Meanwhile the deaths from cancer patients left untreated mount up, as will the costs of mental illness and suicided from the job loss fallout of the 'measures', but, again, no one seems that bothered about those stats.....

[Longcol 604]

17 minutes ago, onewheeldave said:

Interestingly that article also contains today's UK death figure- it's dropped from 33 to 19

 

Also here-

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/?_ga=2.176901153.522971448.1601853346-201961966.1585217610

 

Fascinating to witness a complete lack of interest in that highly relevant figure, while people rush around focused entirely on which celebrity lockdown breaker to scapegoat next and the ever rising positive infection test results.

 

Meanwhile the deaths from cancer patients left untreated mount up, as will the costs of mental illness and suicided from the job loss fallout of the 'measures', but, again, no one seems that bothered about those stats.....

And Monday has always been notorious for a low figure as we're waiting for the admin staff to catch up with stats from over the weekend. This has been the case for months.

 

Untreated illnesses were a direct result of the NHS being virtually overwhelmed by hospitalisations due to covid. There's a limit on the amount of cases the NHS can deal with even by drafting medical/nursing students, GP's and retired staff  into hospital service.

Edited October 5, 2020 by Longcol

[onewheeldave 22]

16 minutes ago, Longcol said:

 

 

Untreated illnesses were a direct result of the NHS being virtually overwhelmed by hospitalisations due to covid. There's a limit on the amount of cases the NHS can deal with even by drafting medical/nursing students, GP's and retired staff  into hospital service.

The NHS was not anywhere near being overwhelmed by COVID.

[Pettytom 1]

28 minutes ago, onewheeldave said:

Interestingly that article also contains today's UK death figure- it's dropped from 33 to 19

 

 

That’s something that we should all be glad about.

 

Sadly, the death figure lags the infection figure by about six weeks. Hospital admissions are already rising, and deaths will rise too.

 

Let’s all hope that we don’t reach the 1500 deaths a day that we saw in the spring.

[Longcol 604]

13 minutes ago, onewheeldave said:

The NHS was not anywhere near being overwhelmed by COVID.

Really?

 

https://www.bma.org.uk/media/2841/the-hidden-impact-of-covid_web-pdf.pdf

 

"The COVID-19 outbreak has had a huge impact on core NHS services. In order to free up enough capacity to deal with the initial peak of the pandemic, the NHS was forced to shut down or significantly reduce many areas of non-COVID care during April, May and June 2020. i This, combined with fewer patients seeking care during lockdown, means that there has been a significant drop in elective procedures, urgent cancer referrals, first cancer treatments and outpatient appointments."

 

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)30727-3/fulltext

 

https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/letters/nhs-coronavirus-waiting-list-surgery-boris-johnson-matt-hancock-a9562866.html

 

https://www.ft.com/content/256d8849-3b23-4e51-b70c-78ebbd064a78

Edited October 5, 2020 by Longcol

[onewheeldave 22]

8 minutes ago, Longcol said:

Really?

 

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)30727-3/fulltext

 

https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/letters/nhs-coronavirus-waiting-list-surgery-boris-johnson-matt-hancock-a9562866.html

 

https://www.ft.com/content/256d8849-3b23-4e51-b70c-78ebbd064a78

Yes, Really

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/health/nhs-nurses-isle-of-wight-tiktok-video-dancing-a4402961.html

 

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2020/apr/09/nhs-staff-performing-tiktok-dance-routines-to-keep-morale-high

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/video/femailnews/video-2142866/Video-NHS-nurses-stay-positive-dance-amid-coronavirus-pandemic.html

[Longcol 604]

3 minutes ago, onewheeldave said:

Yes, Really

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/health/nhs-nurses-isle-of-wight-tiktok-video-dancing-a4402961.html

 

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2020/apr/09/nhs-staff-performing-tiktok-dance-routines-to-keep-morale-high

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/video/femailnews/video-2142866/Video-NHS-nurses-stay-positive-dance-amid-coronavirus-pandemic.html

Lol - a few videos of a few nurses doing a dance to keep their morale up is "evidence"

 

Try

 

https://www.bma.org.uk/media/2841/the-hidden-impact-of-covid_web-pdf.pdf

 

"The COVID-19 outbreak has had a huge impact on core NHS services. In order to free up enough capacity to deal with the initial peak of the pandemic, the NHS was forced to shut down or significantly reduce many areas of non-COVID care during April, May and June 2020. i This, combined with fewer patients seeking care during lockdown, means that there has been a significant drop in elective procedures, urgent cancer referrals, first cancer treatments and outpatient appointments."

Edited October 5, 2020 by Longcol

[onewheeldave 22]

10 minutes ago, Longcol said:

Really?

 

 

 

https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/letters/nhs-coronavirus-waiting-list-surgery-boris-johnson-matt-hancock-a9562866.html

 

 

Matt Hancock-

"The amazing response to coronavirus has only been achieved at the expense of other NHS services. The British Heart Foundation estimates that there have been at least 28,000 delayed inpatient heart procedures in England since lockdown began. New analysis published by Cancer Research UK has outlined as many as 2.4 million people in the UK have been affected by a backlog in cancer care, waiting for cancer screening, further tests or treatment.

In addition, of course, there is the long waiting list for elective surgery procedures, such as hip replacements and cataract extractions. There is a risk that the NHS will be overwhelmed when this outstanding demand is tackled."

 

Says it all really. Amazing how he's trying to twist the unecessary closing of these wards as being in any way useful to tackling covid, it wasn't, they were empty.

 

 

 

2 minutes ago, Longcol said:

Lol - a few videos of a few nurses doing a dance to keep their morale up is "evidence"

 

 

Again, media presenting it as such- reality, nurses with so little work to do and so bored, that they post complicated dance routines on youtube; while patients go untreated, and some die [NOT the nurses fault- they didn't have any say in the unecessary closure of the wards]

[Longcol 604]

2 minutes ago, onewheeldave said:

Matt Hancock-

"The amazing response to coronavirus has only been achieved at the expense of other NHS services. The British Heart Foundation estimates that there have been at least 28,000 delayed inpatient heart procedures in England since lockdown began. New analysis published by Cancer Research UK has outlined as many as 2.4 million people in the UK have been affected by a backlog in cancer care, waiting for cancer screening, further tests or treatment.

In addition, of course, there is the long waiting list for elective surgery procedures, such as hip replacements and cataract extractions. There is a risk that the NHS will be overwhelmed when this outstanding demand is tackled."

 

Says it all really. Amazing how he's trying to twist the unecessary closing of these wards as being in any way useful to tackling covid, it wasn't, they were empty.

 

 

 

Because the staff and beds had largely been re-deployed to covid beds due to the pandemic.

Edited October 5, 2020 by Longcol

[onewheeldave 22]

3 minutes ago, Longcol said:

 

 

https://www.bma.org.uk/media/2841/the-hidden-impact-of-covid_web-pdf.pdf

 

"The COVID-19 outbreak has had a huge impact on core NHS services. In order to free up enough capacity to deal with the initial peak of the pandemic, the NHS was forced to shut down or significantly reduce many areas of non-COVID care during April, May and June 2020. i This, combined with fewer patients seeking care during lockdown, means that there has been a significant drop in elective procedures, urgent cancer referrals, first cancer treatments and outpatient appointments."

Again, spin. Utter rubbish- the wards were empty and unused [except for those few being used as intensive care for covid patients]

[tinfoilhat 11]

3 minutes ago, onewheeldave said:

Matt Hancock-

"The amazing response to coronavirus has only been achieved at the expense of other NHS services. The British Heart Foundation estimates that there have been at least 28,000 delayed inpatient heart procedures in England since lockdown began. New analysis published by Cancer Research UK has outlined as many as 2.4 million people in the UK have been affected by a backlog in cancer care, waiting for cancer screening, further tests or treatment.

In addition, of course, there is the long waiting list for elective surgery procedures, such as hip replacements and cataract extractions. There is a risk that the NHS will be overwhelmed when this outstanding demand is tackled."

 

Says it all really. Amazing how he's trying to twist the unecessary closing of these wards as being in any way useful to tackling covid, it wasn't, they were empty.

 

 

 

Again, media presenting it as such- reality, nurses with so little work to do and so bored, that they post complicated dance routines on youtube; while patients go untreated, and some die [NOT the nurses fault- they didn't have any say in the unecessary closure of the wards]

How many different hospitals? All? Some? The odd ward?

 

I can find you treble the number of videos of medical staff in tears in you want.