melthebell 863 #949 Posted September 16, 2020 3 hours ago, apelike said: That just my point as I would not know unless a link to the source of the quote was provided! 3 hours ago, nikki-red said: If you’re going to copy and paste please also include a link to the original source. Thank you. It was a facebook post Atilla the stockbroker wrote, i have no idea how you copy a single post, and anybody whos not on facebook wouldnt be able to read it anyway, and a single post gives you no more information apart from what he wrote (that i copied) and who he is. The point i copied it for still stands, can the "facts" he wrote be verified? i havent seen anybody else bring up these points as to why testing is struggling so i found it interesting. If anybody wants to research the points in the text to check it out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Longcol 600 #950 Posted September 16, 2020 18 hours ago, apelike said: Why, do you think that testing somehow stops a second wave happening or lessens the way people get infected.? Where did I say testing stops a second wave? It can certainly identify people with the virus so they can self isolate and hopefully not transmit the virus. It allows HMG / local councils to see where high numbers are being infected so can inform decisions eg local lockdowns to reduce transmission. We can't stop the virus until a suitable vaccine is found - we can reduce transmission. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
apelike 10 #951 Posted September 16, 2020 (edited) 30 minutes ago, Longcol said: Where did I say testing stops a second wave? You didn't but certainly implied it in this quote by you: "Odd that there was all the talk of a second wave but nobody thought to substantially increase testing capacity in advance of returns to work / school / pubs re-opening etc etc." Quote It can certainly identify people with the virus so they can self isolate and hopefully not transmit the virus. Anyone with symptoms should be doing that already. Quote It allows HMG / local councils to see where high numbers are being infected so can inform decisions eg local lockdowns to reduce transmission. As said before, this is all about a panic attitude from the press and government and this sort of thing is what happens as a result. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-england-essex-54181548 People need to get a grip and get on with life and understand that very few normal healthy people have died from it, and that covers around 99% of the population. 30 minutes ago, Longcol said: We can't stop the virus until a suitable vaccine is found - we can reduce transmission. But by doing that we are just prolonging the problem, what we have to do is adjust to living with it as it may be years yet before a vaccine is available. Edited September 16, 2020 by apelike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
megona 10 #952 Posted September 16, 2020 My son was feeling poorly saturday, didnt manage to get covid test till tuesday through post. We were both trying from saturday but no tests available either walk in or drive thru. How bad is this? He couldnt return to work so was unpaid for 5 days . Just had negative result back so can return to work tomorrow . This government need step up and see what effect the lack of tests are having on normal working class people. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Pettytom 1 #953 Posted September 17, 2020 59 minutes ago, Easy livin said: as the vast majority of people feel no symptoms with Covid, if your son was feeling unwell, statistically he was more likely to be unwell from any one of the thousands of things that do have symptoms than of covid. Who says that the vast majority of Covid cases experience no symptoms? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
apelike 10 #954 Posted September 17, 2020 42 minutes ago, Pettytom said: Who says that the vast majority of Covid cases experience no symptoms? A couple of links: https://theconversation.com/coronavirus-bmj-study-suggests-78-dont-show-symptoms-heres-what-that-could-mean-135732 And further into the above: https://www.bmj.com/content/369/bmj.m1375?=&utm_source=adestra&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=usage&utm_content=daily&utm_term=text Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Arnold_Lane 0 #955 Posted September 17, 2020 1 hour ago, Pettytom said: Who says that the vast majority of Covid cases experience no symptoms? Are you doing an Abbott and Costello bit? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Pettytom 1 #956 Posted September 17, 2020 (edited) 40 minutes ago, apelike said: A couple of links: https://theconversation.com/coronavirus-bmj-study-suggests-78-dont-show-symptoms-heres-what-that-could-mean-135732 And further into the above: https://www.bmj.com/content/369/bmj.m1375?=&utm_source=adestra&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=usage&utm_content=daily&utm_term=text The BMJ article is interesting, thanks for that. There is however a danger of confirmation bias there. I could produce links to other research that suggests much lower proportions of asymptomatic cases. I guess we need more research, which means more testing. 16 minutes ago, Easy livin said: Every single expert. On every single TV or radio station every day. I believe the word used to scare people is asymptomatic That’s really not true. Edited September 17, 2020 by Pettytom Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Anna B 1,414 #957 Posted September 17, 2020 53 minutes ago, Easy livin said: Every single expert. On every single TV or radio station every day. I believe the word used to scare people is asymptomatic Absolutely. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Mister M 1,625 #958 Posted September 17, 2020 (edited) Life is wonderful for Jacob Rees Mogg, people should stop carping. Really? Edited September 17, 2020 by Mister M Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
PRESLEY 1,228 #959 Posted September 17, 2020 No Symptoms, dont clogg up testing stations, idiots are still causing mayhem by not listening to the loud and clear message, just seen em on the news, Nutters, Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
apelike 10 #960 Posted September 17, 2020 1 hour ago, PRESLEY said: No Symptoms, dont clogg up testing stations, idiots are still causing mayhem by not listening to the loud and clear message, just seen em on the news, Nutters, Blame it on the press and social media for hyping what was a small problem to scaring people into mass panic so that one and all are now demanding a test! It seems that the demand for tests by under 17's has also doubled according to the head of NHS Test and Trace Baroness Harding. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...