tinfoilhat   11 #325 Posted July 19, 2020 3 minutes ago, Baron99 said: Keep Britain Free group.  https://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/hyde-park-protest-wearing-masks-a4502671.html  I wonder who'll they'll turn too if they catch something? Well they won't curl up quietly in a corner and die, they'll burden the health service and wander into A and E with out a mask.  Can imagine this lot in 1940 - "If I want to leave my lights on and my curtains open I will do".  Arseholes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Padders   2,866 #326 Posted July 20, 2020 12 hours ago, tinfoilhat said: Well they won't curl up quietly in a corner and die, they'll burden the health service and wander into A and E with out a mask.  Can imagine this lot in 1940 - "If I want to leave my lights on and my curtains open I will do".  Arseholes. Brilliant TFH. Sums everything up in one sentence. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
alchresearch   214 #327 Posted July 20, 2020 (edited) What exactly is wrong with Piers Corbyn?  Why would it be a hoax to destroy jobs and the economy?  I may not be his brother's biggest fan, but this guy is something else.  Edited July 20, 2020 by alchresearch Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
tinfoilhat   11 #328 Posted July 20, 2020 Couple of bits of potentially good news.  BBC News - Coronavirus: Protein treatment trial 'a breakthrough' https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-53467022  BBC News - Coronavirus vaccine: UK government signs deals for 90 million doses https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-53469269  Let's hope it all works. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
petemcewan   27 #329 Posted July 20, 2020 (edited) Tinfoilha t, Thanks for that uplifting news. The results do look promising. I'd just like to add something. If it was me participating in the trail, I wouldn't be very happy if I found I'd been given a placebo. A historical note.In the early days of the HIV pandemic.The organisation Act Up campaigned against placebos being used in the search to find a treatment for HIV. I think their slogan was" drugs into bodies".  https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2011/12/the-placebo-debate-is-it-unethical-to-prescribe-them-to-patients/250161/ Edited July 20, 2020 by petemcewan Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Arnold_Lane   0 #330 Posted July 20, 2020 1 hour ago, petemcewan said: Tinfoilha t, Thanks for that uplifting news. The results do look promising. I'd just like to add something. If it was me participating in the trail, I wouldn't be very happy if I found I'd been given a placebo. A historical note.In the early days of the HIV pandemic.The organisation Act Up campaigned against placebos being used in the search to find a treatment for HIV. I think their slogan was" drugs into bodies".  https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2011/12/the-placebo-debate-is-it-unethical-to-prescribe-them-to-patients/250161/ Placebos are an important part of clinical trials though. Why would you be unhappy? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Baron99   795 #331 Posted July 20, 2020 (edited) On 18/07/2020 at 12:44, Baron99 said: Not so long ago, walked past a very small group of COVID-19 deniers, setting up a banner & with a few placards, just outside the Peace Gardens.  Apparently, COVID-19 doesn't exist, (mention that to someone at the Northern General, should you come down with respiratory problems in the next month or so), and it's the start of an experiment thought up by governments & scientists as a way to control us all. An update from The Star. Must have been those I saw at the Peace Gardens earlier in the day on Saturday?  https://www.thestar.co.uk/health/coronavirus/tiny-anti-mask-protest-sheffield-city-centre-labelled-embarassing-2917590  They appear to have lost a few from the number I saw. Edited July 20, 2020 by Baron99 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
the_bloke   17 #332 Posted July 20, 2020 1 hour ago, petemcewan said: Tinfoilha t, Thanks for that uplifting news. The results do look promising. I'd just like to add something. If it was me participating in the trail, I wouldn't be very happy if I found I'd been given a placebo. A historical note.In the early days of the HIV pandemic.The organisation Act Up campaigned against placebos being used in the search to find a treatment for HIV. I think their slogan was" drugs into bodies".  https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2011/12/the-placebo-debate-is-it-unethical-to-prescribe-them-to-patients/250161/ That's ridiculous. The placebo is needed to provide a comparison between people with the drug and ones without during a clinical trial. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Arnold_Lane   0 #333 Posted July 20, 2020 (edited) 5 minutes ago, the_bloke said: That's ridiculous. The placebo is needed to provide a comparison between people with the drug and ones without during a clinical trial. Exactly. In some trials the placebo is administered with existing treatments. Edited July 20, 2020 by Arnold_Lane Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
melthebell   863 #334 Posted July 20, 2020 (edited) I see so many with their nose not covered by their masks. Some just don't understand how breathing and viruses work sigh Edited July 20, 2020 by melthebell Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Longcol   602 #335 Posted July 20, 2020 1 hour ago, melthebell said: I see so many with their nose not covered by their masks. Some just don't understand how breathing and viruses work sigh Perhaps it's time to bring back the slogan "coughs and sneezes spread diseases". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
tinfoilhat   11 #336 Posted July 20, 2020 44 minutes ago, Longcol said: Perhaps it's time to bring back the slogan "coughs and sneezes spread diseases". Or maybe "Are you only wearing your mask over your mouth? You are a moron. Don't be a moron and wear you mask properly".  It's not hard is it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...