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Promoters of cycling (a fine pursuit most of the time) are eager to point to towns like Cambridge or Amsterdam, with smiling commuters pedalling happily along flat streets in bright sunny weather, but here in the North on the edge of the Pennines, especially in winter, it's a different story. Although the last few years have seen mild winters, they can be long and dark with frequent gales, persistant snow, ice and slush compounded with the hilly terrain. Happy commuting.

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1 hour ago, Planner1 said:

The measures that are being put in are about helping walking and cycling. People can carry quite significant loads on cycles with all sorts of panniers and bags available. There are cargo bikes for shifting more bulky and heavy stuff. 
 

If you actually compare public transport prices in other places,  Sheffield’s come out as being quite reasonable. 

The vast majority can walk or cycle on some journeys, the measures under discussion are making it easier and safer.

 

There is a public transport network as well and there are taxis, private hire, community transport, car clubs, all of which are viable alternatives to the car. Electric scooters for local journeys are something the government are keen to try out here. They work well in other places.

There’s a lot of talk about bubbles at the moment and you and your colleagues appear to be in one of your own.

Shalesmoor /Derek Dooley Way are part of a main arterial road and in someone’s wisdom it has been decided to restrict traffic flow.

The result is additional pollution and frustration for all road vehicles.

Hired e scooters and bikes can ride 3 abreast past a line of standing traffic.Brilliant.100 bikes an hour and a thousand vehicles ,many of them delivery drivers and commercial vehicles.

Its chaos now with the seemingly never ending work,and it’s going to be no better for the mJority when the work is completed.

This is all to satisfy some great vision that is never going to be realised,certainly in a place like Sheffield.

Sure there are more cyclists about than for a few years ,but the majority do it for exercise on the country roads,not to commute.

Its a total farce.

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I can see it now, a company rep turns up with his samples in his panniers, goes into reception and takes off his cycle clips and helmet. Informs the receptionist he has an appointment with the buyer. What will they think?

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31 minutes ago, forgeman said:

If cyclists are to have their own piece of road then why not tax them for the upkeep.

We already do.

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27 minutes ago, carosio said:

Promoters of cycling (a fine pursuit most of the time) are eager to point to towns like Cambridge or Amsterdam, with smiling commuters pedalling happily along flat streets in bright sunny weather

There are plenty of places with high cycling mode share that are hilly. Bern in Switzerland is a notable one with a 15% cycling mode share. See this article: https://ecf.com/news-and-events/news/cycling-hilly-cities-possible-sure

 

The weather here isn’t actually too bad and cyclists can get extremely good breathable waterproof clothing nowadays. 

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56 minutes ago, RollingJ said:

:thumbsup: I'm  also wondering why, when a narrow lane with blind bends and signed 'No Pedal Cycles' with a clear sign is regularily used by cyclists who travel on it as if it was a racetrack - further details available via PM if required.

It's the same as The Moor. Signs both ends which state NO VEHICLES (the signage shown includes bicycles) with an exception plate for traders at certain times yet cyclists go blasting up and down.

I might just get tired and need a stretch one day and 'accidentally' cloths-line one. ....

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12 minutes ago, Planner1 said:

There are plenty of places with high cycling mode share that are hilly. Bern in Switzerland is a notable one with a 15% cycling mode share. See this article: https://ecf.com/news-and-events/news/cycling-hilly-cities-possible-sure

 

The weather here isn’t actually too bad and cyclists can get extremely good breathable waterproof clothing nowadays. 

I cycled for pleasure and leisure for much of my life,but would have been completely impractical for work.

Car share,e scooters(which are hired only),bikes,taxis ,public transport,pedestrians, all have their place for different reasons.

Cars ,lorries,vans will remain the most popular and its time that this was recognised.

There will be a shift towards electric and hybrid vehicles in time,but free flowing roads should be the aim.

Your defence of this scheme is laughable.

 

 

 

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3 minutes ago, RJRB said:

I cycled for pleasure and leisure for much of my life,but would have been completely impractical for work.

Car share,e scooters(which are hired only),bikes,taxis ,public transport,pedestrians, all have their place for different reasons.

Cars ,lorries,vans will remain the most popular and its time that this was recognised.

There will be a shift towards electric and hybrid vehicles in time,but free flowing roads should be the aim.

Your defence of this scheme is laughable.

 

 

 

Cycling isn’t going to be suitable for everyone for every trip, no one is suggesting differently.

 

The evidence of years of trying shows us that just aiming for free flowing roads and letting our towns and cities be far less pleasant and healthy places to live because of the dominance of motor vehicles, was a mistake. There’s plenty of evidence out there that towns and cities don’t have to be car dominated and can offer a far more pleasant, safe and healthy environment as a result. 

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Just now, Planner1 said:

Cycling isn’t going to be suitable for everyone for every trip, no one is suggesting differently.

 

The evidence of years of trying shows us that just aiming for free flowing roads and letting our towns and cities be far less pleasant and healthy places to live because of the dominance of motor vehicles, was a mistake. There’s plenty of evidence out there that towns and cities don’t have to be car dominated and can offer a far more pleasant, safe and healthy environment as a result. 

Not on arterial roads,it’s the A61 that we are constricting here.

Ridiculous

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6 minutes ago, RJRB said:

Not on arterial roads,it’s the A61 that we are constricting here.

Ridiculous

Well, no one can accuse them of not being bold or trying radical solutions. It is after all a temporary restriction and it can be removed if it causes ongoing issues.

 

Perhaps we should see how it goes for a while before reaching hasty conclusions.

Edited by Planner1

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43 minutes ago, RJRB said:

Not on arterial roads,it’s the A61 that we are constricting here.

Ridiculous

I fully agree.  The increasingly desperate attempts of defence of this incompetent scheme is laughable.  

 

They are talking as if its some cobbled street surrounded by pavement cafes..... Its a dual carriageway which is supposed to be a prime arterial route AROUND the city centre. 

 

I really do hope that the message will one day get well and truly sent to these decision makers come local election time.  

Edited by ECCOnoob

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