Guest makapaka   #133 Posted July 9, 2020 1 minute ago, melthebell said: im not, feel free to tell me who people are that commit acts of violence and what they drink then? its not a one way street, ive tried to state why i think lager is the catalyst for most violence but you dont agree, feel free to tell me why im wrong. notice i say MOST, not all The type of drink someone drinks does not make them more violent or loutish or anything else.  Alcohol makes people violent and loutish in some instances - i agree with that.     Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
melthebell   862 #134 Posted July 9, 2020 1 minute ago, makapaka said: The type of drink someone drinks does not make them more violent or loutish or anything else.  Alcohol makes people violent and loutish in some instances - i agree with that.     Alcohol makes SOME people violent, personally not me, Lager is the drink that in my experience those that commit acts of violence have been drinking, again you look at violence in kebab shops after the pubs / clubs close thats generally NOT commited by "beer" drinkers, id also put age into the equation, in most cases younger people tend to commit acts of violence, and also tend to drink more lager than beer, whereas beer tends to be drank by older people (in most cases, not all) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Guest makapaka   #135 Posted July 9, 2020 2 minutes ago, melthebell said: Alcohol makes SOME people violent, personally not me, Lager is the drink that in my experience those that commit acts of violence have been drinking, again you look at violence in kebab shops after the pubs / clubs close thats generally NOT commited by "beer" drinkers, id also put age into the equation, in most cases younger people tend to commit acts of violence, and also tend to drink more lager than beer, whereas beer tends to be drank by older people (in most cases, not all) Yes some people are violent not all.  I’ll await your evidence as to what everyone who has committed violence on a night out has been drinking beforehand before bothering to debate  any further.  Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
melthebell   862 #136 Posted July 9, 2020 30 minutes ago, makapaka said: Yes some people are violent not all.  I’ll await your evidence as to what everyone who has committed violence on a night out has been drinking beforehand before bothering to debate  any further.  Using your eyes works quite well, going on personal experience works quite well too Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
tinfoilhat   11 #137 Posted July 9, 2020 44 minutes ago, makapaka said: Yes some people are violent not all.  I’ll await your evidence as to what everyone who has committed violence on a night out has been drinking beforehand before bothering to debate  any further.  592000 instances where said violent offender has been drinking, accounting for 47% of all violent crime in England and wales.  It doesn't say whether they were on Stella or not. If anyone could be bothered - and I can't- you could flick through some court reports And see which pubs were mentioned in reports of  violent crime. I'd wager most weren't craft beer establishments. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Guest makapaka   #138 Posted July 9, 2020 2 hours ago, tinfoilhat said: 592000 instances where said violent offender has been drinking, accounting for 47% of all violent crime in England and wales.  It doesn't say whether they were on Stella or not. If anyone could be bothered - and I can't- you could flick through some court reports And see which pubs were mentioned in reports of  violent crime. I'd wager most weren't craft beer establishments  If you’re argument is some establishments get less grief than others no one is going to argue with that.  the stupid idea that someone who drinks lager is more inclined to be violent is nonsensical. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Guest makapaka   #139 Posted July 9, 2020 3 hours ago, melthebell said: Using your eyes works quite well, going on personal experience works quite well too What about people on coke - are they all lager drinkers or beer drinkers? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
nikki-red   299 #140 Posted July 10, 2020 Please stay on topic. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Thirsty Relic   202 #141 Posted July 11, 2020 I really respect the landlords who have made the conscious decision that they will put the health of their staff and customers before profits and stay closed until they feel that the situation is safe enough for them to reopen. I'm staying with my supermarket bought cans and bottles until then also.  Our sensationalist press campaign for pubs to reopen, then point to any excesses caused by over-indulgence. Lets hear it for those who stay closed for now out of concern for their customers! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
ECCOnoob   985 #142 Posted July 11, 2020 4 hours ago, Thirsty Relic said: I really respect the landlords who have made the conscious decision that they will put the health of their staff and customers before profits and stay closed until they feel that the situation is safe enough for them to reopen. I'm staying with my supermarket bought cans and bottles until then also.  Our sensationalist press campaign for pubs to reopen, then point to any excesses caused by over-indulgence. Lets hear it for those who stay closed for now out of concern for their customers! ....all well and good until their staff don't have any job to go back to and their customers don't have a pub to sit in anymore because it's gone bust.  It's not quite that simple and at some point something has to give.  It reminds me of some opinionated caller I heard on the radio earlier today whom was angry that lock down had been lifted and suggested in his 'informed' view that the government should have waited at least a year before relaxing the rules on the assumption that some vaccine might be available.  Just how many businesses did they think would survive after being shut for 12-18 months on lockdown. Just how much government monies (..or let's face it our money) did they think continually could be spent subsidising people's wages for 12-18 months. Madness. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Parkside   0 #143 Posted July 13, 2020 I passes our local pub around 7 PM last night and the outside was packed with drinkers showing no intention of standing or sitting safely (or otherwise ) apart . the scenes no different than any summer night in years past . Has the Governments recommendations gone to pot , will we see a further lock down due to this daft behaviour . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Guest busdriver1   #144 Posted July 13, 2020 More than likely, and then the offenders will be complaining about government interference. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...