Disabled Man Starves To Death During Covid.

[gamezone07 23]

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/coronavirus-death-starved-disabled-food-lockdown-bell-ribeiro-addy-streatham-a9584286.html

 

Very little media coverage/public outrage of the disabled man who has starved to death(yet another one) during Covid, yet again disabled and sick people seem to be ignored despite facing discrimination and multiple hardships.

 

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Edited June 25, 2020 by gamezone07

[pattricia 575]

That is abominable ! 

[ECCOnoob 1,048]

There are a lot of questions to be asked here.  The Independent has seemingly completely failed to ask any of them  despite the attention-grabbing headline.

 

There is barely more than one sentence related to this this tragic incident with no context or background or follow up.   The rest of the article is nothing more than a load of quotes out of context, opinionated commentary and general narrative about disability issues.  

 

Where's the factual detail.

 

What was his disability? How severe was it? Did he have learning difficulties? Did he require care and support? Did he register for any of the supermarket deliveries? Was he able to physically access any supermarket nearby to him? Did he even attempt to do so?  Did he ask for help from his neighbours or family or other acquaintances?  Did you try to raise any complaints with the local authorities when circumstances became dire?  Who or what organisations were responsible for protecting him? What actions did they do?  What are their explanations?  

 

Something doesn't add up.  People don't just "starve" to death.  

 

I get your points about no coverage but to be fair, a news organisation can only report when they are informed about things.   Clearly the indy has a story but their completely poor journalism and lack of any factual detail has given people no choice but to ignore it.  The story doesn't tell us anything.  

 

Edited June 25, 2020 by ECCOnoob

[apelike 10]

3 minutes ago, ECCOnoob said:

There are a lot of questions to be asked here.  The Independent has seemingly completely failed to ask any of them  despite the attention-grabbing headline.

 

There is barely more than one sentence related to this this tragic incident with no context or background or follow up.   The rest of the article is nothing more than a load of quotes out of context, opinionated commentary and general narrative about disability issues.  

 

Where's the factual detail.

 

What was his disability? How severe was it? Did he have learning difficulties? Did he require care and support? Did he register for any of the supermarket deliveries? Was he able to physically access any supermarket nearby to him? Did he even attempt to do so?  Did he ask for help from his neighbours or family or other acquaintances?  Did you try to raise any complaints with the local authorities when circumstances became dire?  Who or what organisations were responsible for protecting him? What actions did they do?  What are their explanations?  

 

Something doesn't add up.  People don't just "starve" to death.  

 

I get your points about no coverage but to be fair, a news organisation can only report when they are informed about things.   Clearly the indy has a story but their completely poor journalism and lack of any factual detail has given people no choice but to ignore it.  The story doesn't tell us anything.  

 

It has been reported in many newspapers though but as you say it is very light on details so may be why its not been given much airtime. It's just a sound bite from a labour MP who thinks that by saying it happened at a Woman and Equalities meeting without giving any details (basically hearsay) seems to be fine. 

[tinfoilhat 11]

33 minutes ago, ECCOnoob said:

There are a lot of questions to be asked here.  The Independent has seemingly completely failed to ask any of them  despite the attention-grabbing headline.

 

There is barely more than one sentence related to this this tragic incident with no context or background or follow up.   The rest of the article is nothing more than a load of quotes out of context, opinionated commentary and general narrative about disability issues.  

 

Where's the factual detail.

 

What was his disability? How severe was it? Did he have learning difficulties? Did he require care and support? Did he register for any of the supermarket deliveries? Was he able to physically access any supermarket nearby to him? Did he even attempt to do so?  Did he ask for help from his neighbours or family or other acquaintances?  Did you try to raise any complaints with the local authorities when circumstances became dire?  Who or what organisations were responsible for protecting him? What actions did they do?  What are their explanations?  

 

Something doesn't add up.  People don't just "starve" to death.  

 

I get your points about no coverage but to be fair, a news organisation can only report when they are informed about things.   Clearly the indy has a story but their completely poor journalism and lack of any factual detail has given people no choice but to ignore it.  The story doesn't tell us anything.  

 

Did he register with any supermarket deliveries?!?!

 

Not unless he was incredibly quick off the mark and had a computer. That said if you were  labled "at risk" by the council (certainly ours) food arrived. 

[ECCOnoob 1,048]

36 minutes ago, tinfoilhat said:

Did he register with any supermarket deliveries?!?!

 

Not unless he was incredibly quick off the mark and had a computer. That said if you were  labled "at risk" by the council (certainly ours) food arrived. 

You have summed up my point really. 

 

This is the problem – we don't know whether he had a computer.   We don't know whether he tried to register.  We don't know whether he was on that vulnerable person list.    The MP certainly hasn't said in her quick and punchy soundbite and the newspaper hasn't bothered to actually investigate and do their jobs as journalists.

 

What this news story is with it's wonderful bold headline is a bit of "oh dearism" and "isn't it tragic".  They don't really care because they still get to sell the papers and turn a few people's heads and the majority of the public can't do anything about it because they have no facts so they just do a collective shrugging of their shoulders or maybe at best a bit of slacktivism sympathy by doing a few retweets of the story.

 

The worst thing about this, as happens many times before, is that the actual "story" now is about the MP talking about it not the actual incident itself.

 

No wonder things constantly fade into obscurity when we've got a journalists who choose to do their jobs by 'phoning it in' stroking their opinionated egoes rather than getting off their backsides and doing their factual reporting work. 

Edited June 25, 2020 by ECCOnoob

[Lex Luthor 10]

3 hours ago, ECCOnoob said:

There are a lot of questions to be asked here.  The Independent has seemingly completely failed to ask any of them  despite the attention-grabbing headline.

 

There is barely more than one sentence related to this this tragic incident with no context or background or follow up.   The rest of the article is nothing more than a load of quotes out of context, opinionated commentary and general narrative about disability issues.  

 

Where's the factual detail.

 

What was his disability? How severe was it? Did he have learning difficulties? Did he require care and support? Did he register for any of the supermarket deliveries? Was he able to physically access any supermarket nearby to him? Did he even attempt to do so?  Did he ask for help from his neighbours or family or other acquaintances?  Did you try to raise any complaints with the local authorities when circumstances became dire?  Who or what organisations were responsible for protecting him? What actions did they do?  What are their explanations?  

 

Something doesn't add up.  People don't just "starve" to death.  

 

I get your points about no coverage but to be fair, a news organisation can only report when they are informed about things.   Clearly the indy has a story but their completely poor journalism and lack of any factual detail has given people no choice but to ignore it.  The story doesn't tell us anything.  

 

Actually, there are hundreds of thousands of disabled people up and down the country who regularly needed and used hand sanitizer, and PPE before the virus, who suddenly couldn't get it, thanks to the lack of preparation by the government.  Also, the overwhelming majority of them have ridiculously, not been put on the extremely vulnerable list, so despite relying on regular supermarket deliveries for their existence,, could no longer get one.  The situation is a national disgrace and our government should be brought to task about this.  I wonder if we will ever get to know the number of deaths amongst the disabled community, due to government negligence.

 

One thing I am sure of, is that hundreds of thousands of disabled people have had their lives saved, thanks to selfless, wonderful, big-hearted individuals in our local communities.  God Bless you all and thank you.👏🕊️

[apelike 10]

8 minutes ago, Lex Luthor said:

 wonder if we will ever get to know the number of deaths amongst the disabled community, due to government negligence.

I doubt it as I don't think that goes on any death certificate so we will ever know.

[Lex Luthor 10]

Just now, apelike said:

I doubt it as I don't think that goes on any death certificate so we will ever know.

Where a person has died of starvation, in law it must go on the death certificate,or the Coroner's office are not doing their job.

[apelike 10]

10 minutes ago, Lex Luthor said:

Where a person has died of starvation, in law it must go on the death certificate,or the Coroner's office are not doing their job.

But at the moment that is exactly what is being debated at the moment on this thread with the lack of any evidence to back up this story as just seems to be a Labour politicians sound bite. Even the press have no other information to back it up and as this will be important to them it seems to just be fake news. BTW I actually meant due to government negligence not being on the death certificate. 

Edited June 25, 2020 by apelike

[Halibut 12]

5 hours ago, ECCOnoob said:

  People don't just "starve" to death. 

Yes, they do.

[ECCOnoob 1,048]

4 minutes ago, Halibut said:

Yes, they do.

No they don't.

 

There is a chain of events leading up to that.  There are a multitude of reasons to be explored whether through self neglect, abandonment, self-harm, negligence by others, institutional failure....

 

I don't work in a world of "...just because"