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19 hours ago, Brooker11 said:

Its been proven that these masks do very little.

Correct Brooker.  And I provided a link to expert advice from the World Health Organization that confirms this.  But there are some people you cannot educate, because no matter what facts you put before them, it doesn't make them stop to think or reconsider, it just reinforces their stubbornness to believe their views are right.  

 

The one thing I do agree with is the statement that "healthy people could be carriers of the virus".  They could, for as far as we know.  This is part of the problem, we haven't routinely tested people, so we don't know who's carrying it and who is not.  But that's part of the reason for the social distancing and lock down.  

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Boris mentioned on radio an

 

Antibody Test.

 

Anybody know when that will be brought into 

use? What is  the delay ?

It's imperative that we get tested by it.

The tactic of "Suppression" (Imperial College Report) is driving a wedge between 

the healthy and those most at risk of dying from the infection.

 

I've already overheard some young people saying, "Why should I have to put up with all this isolation and distancing just to save some old farts".

 

Social distancing cannot go on indefinitely.

 

The Imperial College Report says, that by lifting the Suppression  approach will allow  the virus to rebound So how long must the Suppression tactic be in place?

It all looks rather long term to me-at least 18 months. The conditions that make up a liberal democracy are being severely tested. 

 

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56 percent of those hospitalised in New York are ,30s ,40s 50's.

They may not die from it but might have permanent damage to lungs by degrees.

 

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1 hour ago, butlers said:

56 percent of those hospitalised in New York are ,30s ,40s 50's.

 

 

Can you post a link to the source of that please?

7 hours ago, dropout said:

 

 

and b. the Draconian measures, too, says BBC News, include............ and non-collection of  bins, waste, etc.

 

 

 

 

 

 

That seems strange, and, a very bad idea. Do you have a link concerning the non collection of waste?

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23 hours ago, L00b said:

(...)

16/03: 4 new cases

17/03: 59 new cases

18/03: 63 new cases

19/03: 132 new cases

20/03: 149 new cases

21/03: 186 new cases

22/03: 128 new cases

23/03: 77 new cases

 

then again, might be a false positive like 16/03 was. Today's stats by close of government business will be instructive.

Regrettably, it was.

 

24/03: 224 new cases.

 

Worst day yet here :(

7 minutes ago, croat77 said:

Trump is reported this morning, to have privately asked Asia and Europe for a helping hand in tackling Covid-19. After finding 6 $trillions (6,000 $billions) down the back of the sofa. That's some political reckoning, brewing in the background.

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3 minutes ago, croat77 said:

There’s a thread on here dedicated to him. The title should be changed to What stupid thing has Trump done today?

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3 hours ago, butlers said:

56 percent of those hospitalised in New York are ,30s ,40s 50's.

They may not die from it but might have permanent damage to lungs by degrees.

 

I heard a statistic today, that every person dying from Covid in the UK had a pre existing health condition, is that true ?

Furthermore, a study indicates up to half the UK population have (or have had) this virus.

As the FT comments :

 

 If the results are confirmed, they imply that fewer than one in a thousand of those infected with Covid-19 become ill enough to need hospital treatment, said Sunetra Gupta, professor of theoretical epidemiology, who led the study. The vast majority develop very mild symptoms or none at all.

 

If this is true the whole government strategy *, in fact pretty well the whole world's strategy, is doing untold harm for very little benefit.

 

* Excluding isolating vulnerable groups until a vaccine (or reasonably effective drugs) is developed, that is obviously worthwhile.

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Prince Charles has it. Mild symptoms apparently.

 

Reportedly he met the criteria for testing, not sure what that is exactly, anyone know what it might be?

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The 56percent was from a doctor giving a diary of his day on the ward in NY.

I'll try and find it but was likely a link off a link on Twitter.

Following a couple of really good people ,

http://twitter.com/devisridhar.

There's a YouTube up of

 Her 5 ? years back saying more or less the most likely cause if next pandemic is exactly what we are going thru

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The only strategy tactic which has been proven to 'work' so far, is to enforce isolation rigidly to curb the R0 , and in the meantime to test systematically and trace positive testers. That takes care of stemming the volume of infection, which is the most important variable affecting lethality.

 

In this morning's news, we now have "drive in" test centres, where you can just turn up (GP prescription required) and get Covid19-tested without leaving your car. That might not be a realistic approach on the scale of GB, but it's worth keeping in mind as a local initiative, to try and help accelerate the volume of testing.

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59 minutes ago, Waldo said:

Prince Charles has it. Mild symptoms apparently.

 

Reportedly he met the criteria for testing, not sure what that is exactly, anyone know what it might be?

Call me cynical but having the initials HRH tagged on to your name might help? 

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/uk-52033845

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