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With the advice to stay away from bars, clubs, restaurants etc and with half a million people in the airline industry it seems that there is a transferable work force available to help in hospitals and care centres with one on one mentoring to boost the numbers. Shame on those companies who are asking employees to take unpaid leave.

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1 minute ago, Green Slime said:

With the advice to stay away from bars, clubs, restaurants etc and with half a million people in the airline industry it seems that there is a transferable work force available to help in hospitals and care centres with one on one mentoring to boost the numbers. Shame on those companies who are asking employees to take unpaid leave.

Yes you can just walk into a hospital and not be trained to do it

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5 minutes ago, Green Slime said:

With the advice to stay away from bars, clubs, restaurants etc and with half a million people in the airline industry it seems that there is a transferable work force available to help in hospitals and care centres with one on one mentoring to boost the numbers. Shame on those companies who are asking employees to take unpaid leave.

Those companies asking employees to take unpaid leave are doing so to  give their business a better chance of still trading in several months time. 

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3 minutes ago, melthebell said:

Yes you can just walk into a hospital and not be trained to do it

Who says anything about not being trained, the airline industry is very skilled at being re-skilled, it's not about now its about in six months and next year when it returns even stronger.

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15 minutes ago, Green Slime said:

Who says anything about not being trained, the airline industry is very skilled at being re-skilled, it's not about now its about in six months and next year when it returns even stronger.

Do you really think they have tome to fart about training people now? Classrooms are starting to be thought about closing, it's not the time to be training people, we'd have been better with the Tories not previously decimating our hospitals, nursing stuff and care homes,now we get em half arsing around, yet again showing they don't care about people's health and jobs

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39 minutes ago, Green Slime said:

With the advice to stay away from bars, clubs, restaurants etc and with half a million people in the airline industry it seems that there is a transferable work force available to help in hospitals and care centres with one on one mentoring to boost the numbers. Shame on those companies who are asking employees to take unpaid leave.

If you want to increase heathcare capacity, then besides conscripting private hospitals, you're better off tasking the Army to setup field hospitals. They're already long- and well-trained for NBC warfare / conditions.

 

Flight attendants aren't, and many have been catching Covid-19 left, right and center for months now.

 

Shame on your government which is repeatedly washing its hands off its basic responsibility and duty to your collective welfare. Then again, Britain elected a monkey for a PM, so Britain doesn't get to be surprised, nor disappointed, at getting peanuts. Like 'Operation Last Gasp'.

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15 minutes ago, L00b said:

If you want to increase heathcare capacity, then besides conscripting private hospitals, you're better off tasking the Army to setup field hospitals. They're already long- and well-trained for NBC warfare / conditions.

 

Flight attendants aren't, and many have been catching Covid-19 left, right and center for months now.

And 10 Regiments and 10 field hospitals are going to be enough?

Tests are available 

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19 minutes ago, Green Slime said:

And 10 Regiments and 10 field hospitals are going to be enough?

There is no possible way to know, because of the lag in the infectious/detected ratio created by the British government policy of the past few weeks.

 

The Imperial study, on which the government's U-turn is largely based, suggests 'not', regrettably.

19 minutes ago, Green Slime said:

Tests are available 

Indeed. But what is the British government policy about testing, again?

 

Look, if you'd prefer a dozen cute but untrained (or crash-trained) flight attendants looking after your ICU-worthy healthcare requirements, than a gruff sergeant major in MOPP gear with 20 years military healthcare training, that's your prerogative. But it doesn't make it any more sensible.

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Green Slime,

 

Are you saying it's going to become endemic and return seasonally ?

That would possibly be a planetary  catastrophe. 

This pandemic is getting more science fiction like by the minute.

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5 minutes ago, petemcewan said:

Green Slime,

 

Are you saying it's going to become endemic and return seasonally ?

That would possibly be a planetary  catastrophe. 

This pandemic is getting more science fiction like by the minute.

That's the scenario I think. With the Northern Hemisphere going into warm weather and summer thé suggestion is that the virus will take off in the Southern Hemisphere, their winter, and " boomerang back" north to us next winter. 

 

Not sure how close to a vaccine we are but I've read third semestre of next year.

 

Brace yourselves

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47 minutes ago, L00b said:

There is no possible way to know, because of the lag in the infectious/detected ratio created by the British government policy of the past few weeks.

 

The Imperial study, on which the government's U-turn is largely based, suggests 'not', regrettably.

Indeed. But what is the British government policy about testing, again?

 

Look, if you'd prefer a dozen cute but untrained (or crash-trained) flight attendants looking after your ICU-worthy healthcare requirements, than a gruff sergeant major in MOPP gear with 20 years military healthcare training, that's your prerogative. But it doesn't make it any more sensible.

At this stage I think its that or nothing, and something not very good may save more people than nothing...

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37 minutes ago, nightrider said:

At this stage I think its that or nothing, and something not very good may save more people than nothing...

Macron last night announced an Army field hospital being setup in Alsace in the coming days. I half-expected it, given the scale of the infection centre discovered amongst the Jehova or Born-Again or <...> religious community there, week before last. The Chinese did likewise back in Wuhan, so have the Italians.

 

My earlier reply was based on precedent, and is actually basic common sense. Before looking at crash-training any old Tom, Dick and Harriet in ICU (and biohazard) protocols, you use every last fully-trained healthcare professional going, whether in civvies or khakis, then those partially-trained (student doctors, -nurses, etc) with the nearest -qualified first. And if that's still not enough as time goes by,  when you run out of first-year medicine students, then you look at volunteers (-only).

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