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30 minutes ago, nikki-red said:

London and Birmingham both have more than Sheffield?

I think this was Yorkshire cities.

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The air is much cleaner. When I go out it's good to see so many people going on a run or bike ride, it's so much more pleasant outside now with the greatly reduced traffic and absence of crowds.

For those few driving, the road system actually works now- the buses can run to schedule, both rush hours [actually more like 2/3 hours] are gone.

I really hope that when this is over, that humanity makes a big effort to not get 'back to normal'. It's clear now that working from home is considerably more acheivable than previously thought.

A previous poster mentioned that working from home can be bad for mental health, and I would counter by pointing out that many would benefit in terms of both physical and mental health if they lived in a world where the air was clean, the roads clear and it was normal for people to go out running and cycling, where public transport ran on time.

With clear skies untainted by criss-crossing airplane exhaust fumes and the local environment was so pleasant that people didn't feel the need to fly 2 or 3 times a year to holiday.

How bizarre that humanity has made such pitiful progress in tackling climate change, and yet they'll shut down several of it's major contributers in weeks if they feel threatened by a virus whose consequences are, at worst, trivial in comparison to total climate destruction.

 

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14 minutes ago, onewheeldave said:

The air is much cleaner. When I go out it's good to see so many people going on a run or bike ride, it's so much more pleasant outside now with the greatly reduced traffic and absence of crowds.

For those few driving, the road system actually works now- the buses can run to schedule, both rush hours [actually more like 2/3 hours] are gone.

I really hope that when this is over, that humanity makes a big effort to not get 'back to normal'. It's clear now that working from home is considerably more acheivable than previously thought.

A previous poster mentioned that working from home can be bad for mental health, and I would counter by pointing out that many would benefit in terms of both physical and mental health if they lived in a world where the air was clean, the roads clear and it was normal for people to go out running and cycling, where public transport ran on time.

With clear skies untainted by criss-crossing airplane exhaust fumes and the local environment was so pleasant that people didn't feel the need to fly 2 or 3 times a year to holiday.

How bizarre that humanity has made such pitiful progress in tackling climate change, and yet they'll shut down several of it's major contributers in weeks if they feel threatened by a virus whose consequences are, at worst, trivial in comparison to total climate destruction.

 

 

Yes, interesting post, dave. One could write an essay on this!

 

Shopping will definitely change, and from deliverying for Sainsbury's for a year, I knew then (2 years ago) that every new customer I saw, I saw again and they in general said ''this is so much easier, can't believe I didn't do this before, and now just go to shop for a few top up things - so could be very good for local shops in future.

 

Think now - in just 2 weeks -  how many people have tried this, and prefer it. Big supermarkets probably won't be built now, as already they in decline (before this). I'd ask my brother to comment if he a member, as this is his trade!

 

More delivery drivers and depots I think.

 

I hope pubs do well out of all the suggestions for working from home in future. I used to like socialising in pubs, but it went out of fashion when the internet took off.  I think if government altered pub taxes , that maybe it might come in fashion again, as a daily pint and away from work.  Who knows?

 

But, back to editing a new youtube film that I'm doing as spent over my new allowance of reading and talking about C19 today :hihi:

 

I think there will be thousands of lessons learned from this in years to come.

 

Stay well, you and all here. :)

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Good article about police abusing their powers in the name of coronovirus

https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/derbyshire-police-should-leave-those-dog-walkers-alone

 

"This is deeply sinister. The drone footage should alarm anyone who cares for liberty. It shows people doing perfectly normal and perfectly safe things and then reprimands them for allegedly sinning against the lockdown.

One clip shows a couple walking their dog. And then comes the stiff reprimand: ‘Walking your dog in the Peak District — not essential’. Other ‘not essential’ activities include ‘Going for a walk miles from home’ and ‘Going out of your way for an Instagram snap’. Oh, the irony of the police secretly filming people from the sky and then telling them off for taking a selfie. At least the person’s selfie was consensual, you authoritarian halfwits.

This is an outrage against liberty. The vast majority of people accept the lockdown and are adhering to the rules. And within those rules we are allowed out for certain reasons. To shop, to help vulnerable people, to get exercise. The citizens outrageously filmed by the Derbyshire Stasi drone were all getting exercise. They were not close to anyone else. They were in the vast, sparsely populated Peak District. That’s about as socially distanced as you can be.

Indeed, in response to Derbyshire police’s claim that people should not be driving their cars to get to a preferred spot for their daily exercise or their daily dog-walk, the Cabinet Office says actually they can do this. It’s fine. In which case someone really needs to rein in the Derbyshire cops. It is completely unacceptable for a police force to seek to restrict people’s movement more than the elected government has deemed necessary. That way lies tyrannical overreach."

 

 

 

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This is probably all part of the bill that went through on Monday onewheeldave. A lot of 'conspiracy' theorists said it was the start of a slippery slope that would be extended. Most people have no idea what measures it contained (including I suspect some of the politicians who voted it through,) but ancient rights were removed at the stroke of a pen.

One of the things for example is the removal of Local Authorities obligation to provide social care support. Nice. Other things slipped through as well, hidden in plain sight.

They may well be rescinded at the end of the coronavirus crisis, some or hopefully all, but then again, maybe not.

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14 hours ago, lazarus said:

The self isolation just isn’t getting though to the African, Malayan immigrants where I live, the Africans  are going out two or three times a day visit their friends just over the road, the Malayans are going out shopping every day in groups of two and threes. One bloke goes out in his car several times a day, not taking out anything or bringing anything back and no he’s not caring for anyone. Families are letting their children out in close proximity of older people. The immigrants can’t grasp the situation and the whites just aren’t bothered.

You spend a lot of time spying on other people.  Have you any other hobbies to take up your day instead?

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25 minutes ago, Anna B said:

This is probably all part of the bill that went through on Monday onewheeldave. A lot of 'conspiracy' theorists said it was the start of a slippery slope that would be extended. Most people have no idea what measures it contained (including I suspect some of the politicians who voted it through,) but ancient rights were removed at the stroke of a pen.

One of the things for example is the removal of Local Authorities obligation to provide social care support. Nice. Other things slipped through as well, hidden in plain sight.

They may well be rescinded at the end of the coronavirus crisis, some or hopefully all, but then again, maybe not.

That Bill also reduced the requirment for 2 doctors [one familiar with the patient] signatures, to just 1 doctor, to section a person.

I've yet to think of 1 possible way that can help against the virus, but can see how it could be wrongly used to eliminate those troubling dissenters who, suffering from a capacity for actual rational thought, continue to go outside alone for a healthy run or walk, when the authorities ramp up their quest for a totalitarian state by imposing a curfew.

Crazy as it sounds, the actual virus is now the very least of my worries, in comparison to the almost inevitable ramping up of these assaults on civil liberties, most of which are even more damaging to those of us who are autistic or otherwise vulnerable.

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9 hours ago, *_ash_* said:

 

 

My trade is finished like millions of others. 

Ash, you are one of the good guys on this forum, It must be a very harrowing time for you and your family..

For what its worth, I wish you well..

Things will get better, yes It will take time, but we will get there.

Keep going, Keep posting, and all the best Mate.

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Right, sorry guys for jumping in on this thread, and throwing it off track, my sincere apologies, but can anyone explain what the current situation is with regards to Boris and the comment about getting 80% of your wages compensated, is that only applicable when your site of employment has been ordered to close by the government, or is it still applicable if your employer chooses to close down the place of employment due to safety worries? ....where i work we are still working as normal for a week, then after that the company are closing down the site for two weeks and forcing everyone to use their holidays for that period. after that we have no idea what the plans are..

By the way, as much as i hate Doris, i wish him a full recovery.............  a slow one though 

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1 hour ago, onewheeldave said:

Good article about police abusing their powers in the name of coronovirus

https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/derbyshire-police-should-leave-those-dog-walkers-alone

 

"This is deeply sinister. The drone footage should alarm anyone who cares for liberty. It shows people doing perfectly normal and perfectly safe things and then reprimands them for allegedly sinning against the lockdown.

One clip shows a couple walking their dog. And then comes the stiff reprimand: ‘Walking your dog in the Peak District — not essential’. Other ‘not essential’ activities include ‘Going for a walk miles from home’ and ‘Going out of your way for an Instagram snap’. Oh, the irony of the police secretly filming people from the sky and then telling them off for taking a selfie. At least the person’s selfie was consensual, you authoritarian halfwits.

This is an outrage against liberty. The vast majority of people accept the lockdown and are adhering to the rules. And within those rules we are allowed out for certain reasons. To shop, to help vulnerable people, to get exercise. The citizens outrageously filmed by the Derbyshire Stasi drone were all getting exercise. They were not close to anyone else. They were in the vast, sparsely populated Peak District. That’s about as s

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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The Lord help us.

 

Gove the educational ****-upper is now wheeled out as our leader....

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