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14 minutes ago, Bargepole23 said:

You are also predicting the end of a large swathe of social life, for probably years.

 

"People going to bars and restaurants and nightclubs, and using hotels, and arena events, all packed places with people, is now a thing of the past, for probably years."

 

You have zero knowledge that will be the case. Things are closed at present. For how long, nobody knows, including you. Am I wrong?

 

So, whilst I didn't actually use the phrase scaremongering, you did, and it feels appropriate.

I don't think that's scaremongering, I was going to start a thread of Life after coronovirus. The world will look different - but how different?

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4 hours ago, *_ash_* said:

 

 

You really either need to look at what's happening, and wonder where all this money will come from in future.

It will come from the same place as now. Central banks can print an almost infinite amount of money. With care this can be injected into the economy without creating asset bubbles or stoking excessive inflation.

 

Ultimately, you just forgive all the debt and reset everything.

4 hours ago, *_ash_* said:

 

The financial crash of 2008 now looks like a minor event and probably will lose it's place in history as a drop in the ocean.

 

People think life going back to normal in a few months, or even years, need to ask other members in here who have knowledge, rather than social media... they'll tell you what's coming.

The people I work for have outposts in China and Hong Kong and the feedback from them has been that as the restrictions have been lifted things started to bounce back fairly quickly.

 

The economy is still functioning. A lot of places are still open, some more than others. When all this is done people will still need to build things and buy things. 

 

If all else fails, the shops which are now shut have millions of pounds worth of stock which someone will need to sell when the liquidators hold the closing down sale. 

 

 

4 hours ago, *_ash_* said:

My trade is finished like millions of others. People going to bars and restaurants and nightclubs, and using hotels, and arena events, all packed places with people, is now a thing of the past, for probably years.

People will still need to socialise, go places, celebrate and such like. It may take a while for things to get back to exactly where they were but the entertainment and leisure industry will probably have a strong recovery. 

 

4 hours ago, *_ash_* said:

 

Thousands of jobs, (many 'zero hours contracts) that Anna spent last few years moaning about - gone.

They will come back, maybe for a different employer but they will come back. 

 

On a more optimistic note, we have an opportunity to reform the 'zero hours' job market, and maybe the economy as a whoile into something that works better for everyone. 

4 hours ago, *_ash_* said:

Normality has changed, forever.

Normality always changes

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3 hours ago, crazyhorse said:

On the contrary Anna...I think Boris has just won the next election by a landslide.

Maybe, maybe not. Who knows what the future holds and, in particular, how this plays out. 

 

The reality of his current majority is that it would be hard for the opposition to win the next election regardless of the quality of its leader and people's perception of the performance of the government, 

 

People make comparisons with Churchill and the second world war.  He may have won it, but he lost the following election.....

 

 

3 hours ago, crazyhorse said:

I honestly think this is his "Falklands" moment.

As long as he's not General Galtieri

 

 

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Talk about Social Gathering, what about Job Centres,  more people will be Gathering there  for Universal Credit ect.  I know some have closed but why are some still open.  

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Is it possible to apply online without going to the jobcentre?

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1 hour ago, andyofborg said:

It will come from the same place as now. Central banks can print an almost infinite amount of money. With care this can be injected into the economy without creating asset bubbles or stoking excessive inflation.

 

Ultimately, you just forgive all the debt and reset everything.

The people I work for have outposts in China and Hong Kong and the feedback from them has been that as the restrictions have been lifted things started to bounce back fairly quickly.

 

The economy is still functioning. A lot of places are still open, some more than others. When all this is done people will still need to build things and buy things. 

 

If all else fails, the shops which are now shut have millions of pounds worth of stock which someone will need to sell when the liquidators hold the closing down sale. 

 

 

People will still need to socialise, go places, celebrate and such like. It may take a while for things to get back to exactly where they were but the entertainment and leisure industry will probably have a strong recovery. 

 

They will come back, maybe for a different employer but they will come back. 

 

On a more optimistic note, we have an opportunity to reform the 'zero hours' job market, and maybe the economy as a whoile into something that works better for everyone. 

Normality always changes

Lots of positivity there andy, thanks :)

 

 

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11 hours ago, lazarus said:

The self isolation just isn’t getting though to the African, Malayan immigrants where I live, the Africans  are going out two or three times a day visit their friends just over the road, the Malayans are going out shopping every day in groups of two and threes. One bloke goes out in his car several times a day, not taking out anything or bringing anything back and no he’s not caring for anyone. Families are letting their children out in close proximity of older people. The immigrants can’t grasp the situation and the whites just aren’t bothered.

I heard the Romanians were partying in Page Hall the other night, was it because they're now off work or were they having corvid19 parties?

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16 minutes ago, Anna B said:

Is it possible to apply online without going to the jobcentre?

You can now, but from other sites I read, there seems to be an issue that is causing problems, and it's the identification process. Might be worth hanging on a bit, as obviously now everyone all applying at once.

 

I'm not even sure if I should apply, because I'll be waiting for the self-employed june payment. But do I claim UC, then they deduct it off payment or what?

 

Probably a little early to know, but if anyone does, I can't find this info, and on trade sites, there are mixed messages.

 

 

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Sheffield has thr highest number of covid19 cases- just saw on local news.

 

Standing at 286 cases

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15 minutes ago, Mr Fisk said:

Sheffield has thr highest number of covid19 cases- just saw on local news.

 

Standing at 286 cases

yeah, no one is really talking about it. And since it's been here since quite early on, it could be almost everywhere here now.

 

A few days ago, I sent messages to the taxi group (and insurance companies), because the now sitting hackneys could be useful for drivers who wish to volunteer, if no family, could use them to transport NHS staff who don't have cars. (probably more likely to be cleaners / part-time staff / and younger staff) - if/when public transport stops.

 

 

 

 

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29 minutes ago, Mr Fisk said:

Sheffield has thr highest number of covid19 cases- just saw on local news.

 

Standing at 286 cases

London and Birmingham both have more than Sheffield?

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2 hours ago, andyofborg said:

It will come from the same place as now. Central banks can print an almost infinite amount of money. With care this can be injected into the economy without creating asset bubbles or stoking excessive inflation.

 

Ultimately, you just forgive all the debt and reset everything.

The people I work for have outposts in China and Hong Kong and the feedback from them has been that as the restrictions have been lifted things started to bounce back fairly quickly.

 

The economy is still functioning. A lot of places are still open, some more than others. When all this is done people will still need to build things and buy things. 

 

If all else fails, the shops which are now shut have millions of pounds worth of stock which someone will need to sell when the liquidators hold the closing down sale. 

 

 

People will still need to socialise, go places, celebrate and such like. It may take a while for things to get back to exactly where they were but the entertainment and leisure industry will probably have a strong recovery. 

 

They will come back, maybe for a different employer but they will come back. 

 

On a more optimistic note, we have an opportunity to reform the 'zero hours' job market, and maybe the economy as a whoile into something that works better for everyone. 

Normality always changes

I can tell you one thing which may change, more people might end upo working from home long term. However, I don't necessarily think that's a good thing for many people's mental health and, in fact, social interactions. Friends on Facebook aren't real friends and chatting Online is not the same by a country mile. 

1 minute ago, nikki-red said:

London and Birmingham both have more than Sheffield?

As has been mentioned on here more than once those statistics of "confirmed cases" are meaningless, they're testing very few people, they have no idea how many people have (or have had) this virus. The Govt's own advice is not to even bother contacting the NHS (or any Govt department)  if you think you have the virus, much less actually be tested.....

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