scoo   0 #1 Posted April 29, 2020 We have recently heard of a relative that passed away several months ago - a person has pretended to be an only relative and cleaned out the bank account before and after the death, but the Bank will no divulge any information to the police without an account number which no one has other that this person - how do we get round this case of theft and fraud ?? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
speleo1 Â Â 10 #2 Posted April 29, 2020 So have they emptied the account from a pay machine or inside the bank Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Hopman   46 #3 Posted April 29, 2020 If you know the name of the bank, google XXXX Fraud department and this should bring up some contact details for advice. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
scoo   0 #4 Posted April 29, 2020 (edited) they emptied it from cash machine after death , we cant verify the withdrawels before death Edited April 29, 2020 by scoo amendment Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Jeffrey Shaw   83 #5 Posted April 29, 2020 18 minutes ago, scoo said: they emptied it from cash machine after death , we cant verify the withdrawels before death But the Bank can, if approached by the Deceased's Executor or Administrator.. Theft is theft, even after death. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
scoo   0 #6 Posted April 30, 2020 Hi Jeffrey,  Thanks for your reply, however the Bank wont discuss with us as we don't have the account number - they wont even speak to the Police without account Number - so a warning to you all don ot bank with LLOYDS as they seem to be happy to let fraudsters empty and steal from your account but when prove identity given of family they don't want to help . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Agent Orange   11 #7 Posted April 30, 2020 17 hours ago, scoo said: We have recently heard of a relative that passed away several months ago - a person has pretended to be an only relative and cleaned out the bank account before and after the death, but the Bank will no divulge any information to the police without an account number which no one has other that this person - how do we get round this case of theft and fraud ?? How do you know this if you do not have access to the account details?  Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Yosser   10 #8 Posted April 30, 2020 4 hours ago, scoo said: Hi Jeffrey,  Thanks for your reply, however the Bank wont discuss with us as we don't have the account number - they wont even speak to the Police without account Number - so a warning to you all don ot bank with LLOYDS as they seem to be happy to let fraudsters empty and steal from your account but when prove identity given of family they don't want to help . Sounds like the police are fobbing you off. If you have presented them with evidence that shows the person you say committed the fraud then they will investigate. All the police need to know is the bank in question which you say you have given to them? Are you sure the alleged offender has no right to this money? Have the police advised you to see a solicitor as this might be a civil matter? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
ECCOnoob   985 #9 Posted April 30, 2020 (edited) Something strange here.  The alleged thief must have known about the presence of the account, had access to or was given the card and had knowledge of the pin number in order to withdraw cash.   As Yosser has pointed out. It is worth considering whether they did actually have a right to the money (even if the OP doesnt agree with that) and see if there is some form of civil action that could be pursued.  Is this mystery "person" another member of the family? they must have got that information somehow which is not an easy task for a complete stranger.   In my experience banks and the police don't treat these things lightly IF there is a clear theft but from my reading of this thread that doesn't seem to be the case.  Edited April 30, 2020 by ECCOnoob Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Jim Hardie   496 #10 Posted April 30, 2020 3 hours ago, Yosser said: Sounds like the police are fobbing you off. If you have presented them with evidence that shows the person you say committed the fraud then they will investigate. All the police need to know is the bank in question which you say you have given to them? Are you sure the alleged offender has no right to this money? Have the police advised you to see a solicitor as this might be a civil matter? If anyone is doing the fobbing off, it's the bank. Nowhere does the OP say they have spoken to the police. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
speleo1 Â Â 10 #11 Posted April 30, 2020 So who is the deceased executor if not yourself,don't think the bank will talk to you without proof,death cert etc. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Jim Hardie   496 #12 Posted May 2, 2020 On 30/04/2020 at 22:14, speleo1 said: So who is the deceased executor if not yourself,don't think the bank will talk to you without proof,death cert etc. The executor needs to be alive. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...