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3 hours ago, Mister Gee said:

Absolutely the right move by the Tories today though, turning to socialism when free market capitalism doesn’t have an answer to a global crisis. 

There will be those preaching "The strong survive and the weakest go to the wall".

But, after a few seconds of thought that is total  rubbish

We're not cavemen anymore and we have a developed and caring society with an intellectual approach to problems for the best result for everyone.

Yep, when push comes to shove they know it make sense.

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As I sat on the sofa a few minutes ago  thinking of the mess we are in and how literally scared I have felt for my wife, children and grandchildren ( and the thought of my death)

As my wife said, she felt totally out of control and the thought of having to remain in doors for an unknown length of time was  severely depressing. (we can now go for a walk along our beaches).

I thought that I had never felt so blooming miserable  and helpless when I remembered 1962 just after we had married.

The Cuban Crisis when JFK and Krushchev had the worlds destruction on a knife edge.

Every evening two 22 year olds  listening to the news after work (we didn't have a TV) which leader would blink first or would one press the nuclear button. This crisis will probably last for a long time but the relief when it ends will be nothing like that  when Khrushchev blinked.

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27 minutes ago, Flanker7 said:

There will be those preaching "The strong survive and the weakest go to the wall".

But, after a few seconds of thought that is total  rubbish

We're not cavemen anymore and we have a developed and caring society with an intellectual approach to problems for the best result for everyone.

Yep, when push comes to shove they know it make sense.

Really? Tell that to anyone on Universal Credit.

20,000 a year are said to have died as a direct result of Tory unnecessary austerity measures, but who cares?. They've had 10 years to sort out the Social Care sector and not addressed it at all in spite of desperate need.  Part of the trouble we're in / lack of preparedness, is a direct result of Tory cuts to the NHS. The money is there but it's all in the hands of the few.

This crisis has been a long time in the making, and we've still a long way to go. 

Edited by Anna B

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It's a start but  at least there starting to listen  

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On 16/03/2020 at 06:15, Halibut said:

Nothing whatsoever to do with multiculturalism.

 

On 16/03/2020 at 06:06, Westie1889 said:

It’s nothing to do with multi-culturalism, globalisation maybe yes.

 

Dont be soft course it has, its EVERYTHING to do with multi culture,during the WW2 everyone pulled together,not snapped it up took it home a flogged it for more money,sure there was a blackmarket,but nothing like the multicultural UK of today,you got the odd spiv that had access to a few privallaged stores,not asians and slovakians buying every essential commodity for profit in gangs.You cant even buy a fridge freezer in sheffield because theyve snapped them all up in S9,personally Id cut the power off DBs,a different Britain will rise from this crisis,fuelled by hatred of this experience,and those that perpitrated it

Edited by staninoodle

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20,000 a year have died due to Tory austerity measures?

 

unsubstantiated drivel probably from the Guardian.

 

in all this “austerity” we saw the growth of vape shops, tattoo parlours and nail bars

 

Yes true austerity.

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I don't want to be alarmist but I believe we are being lulled into a state of complacency by reports that for most people the coronavirus won't be that bad.

 

All well and good, but I seriously want to be prepared and know how to nurse a person at home when they are really poorly, bad / dying, assuming that there will be no chance of a hospital bed or proper treatment which will almost certainly be rationed.

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6 hours ago, Anna B said:

I agree, but at the moment people do not seem to be taking it seriously enough, and a lot of that is down to poor media coverage. Also our statistics are badly skewed because we are not testing for it

 

It's been emphasised that most people will only have a mild dose, but even that can knock you off your feet and leave you weak as a kitten for a long while.  And it will be a lot worse for many. And fatal for some.

Is it because it's assumed that most of those will be elderly, and people have an 'I'm all right Jack' mentality?

 

It's important to take as much care as possible not to get it for the sake of everybody else, and I don't think this point has been driven home enough. 

 

I agree with this.

People are insanely Panic buying, yet many, it seems, are not seemingly giving much of a stuff about the Virus itself.

 

Seems to me that, since Paracetamol is VERY much needed for home/self-isolation or self-medicating for the symptoms and NOT available now, NO thanks to greedy,selfish people,! then many more people will end up needing hospital and likely Ventilators/respirators - partly because they had no access to, supply of Paracetamol for Home, self-isolation treatment.

 

Then, guess what? Yes, all the Ventilators are busy(not to mention the Hospital beds!)....and there is an ongoing chaos?, to SUDDENLY begin to try and create/provide another 22'000 Ventilators/oxygenators/respirators before the 12 weeks are up for Boris!

 

2020 is, ironically, the (Chinese) year of the Rat! (Not Half).

 

All of this Virus scaremongering and the escalation and the ensuing chaos, disorder and now panic and FEAR, for the past 4 months or so, and reading about the Human response(s), makes me feel Utterly ASHAMED to be Human.

 

Year of the Rat? NOT HALF!  With how things are now, Rats are FAR MORE CIVILISED than Human beings. Disgusting creatures.

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2 hours ago, MillerMike said:

20,000 a year have died due to Tory austerity measures?

 

unsubstantiated drivel probably from the Guardian.

No, it's from a paper by a group of researchers, mostly from Oxbridge and London universities, that was published in the BMJ (formerly British Medical Journal) a few years ago:

 

https://bmjopen.bmj.com/content/7/11/e017722

 

I admit that I haven't read this paper yet, but I'll put it on my lockdown reading list.

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6 hours ago, staninoodle said:

 

Dont be soft course it has, its EVERYTHING to do with multi culture,during the WW2 everyone pulled together,not snapped it up took it home a flogged it for more money,sure there was a blackmarket,but nothing like the multicultural UK of today,you got the odd spiv that had access to a few privallaged stores,not asians and slovakians buying every essential commodity for profit in gangs.You cant even buy a fridge freezer in sheffield because theyve snapped them all up in S9,personally Id cut the power off DBs,a different Britain will rise from this crisis,fuelled by hatred of this experience,and those that perpitrated it

This is unmitigated nonsense, but if anyone can enlighten me as to what the poster means when he says ''I'd cut off the power off DBs'' I'd be grateful.

 

Also, why does anyone urgently need a fridge freezer?

Edited by Halibut

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Is Spoons finally closed? 

 

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