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Why are the people who prepare for the inevitable being castigated?   "Greedy, selfish, idiots" etc. You are probably doing the same.

 

Every single visit to the supermarket increases your risk of being infected, or passing on the infection.  Any vaccine is at least a year away. The vulnerable are being advised to isolate for 12 weeks, and everyone is being told to avoid all unnecessary human contact.

 

If you are in a financial position to do so, you'd be stupid to not fill up your trolley in order to limit your risk of dying prematurely. Who are we to judge other peoples trolley contents, they could be buying for 10 people, or have IBS.

 

Any ire should be saved for the supply chain, and the retail outlets, empty shelves increases anxiety. We are told there is plenty of food, plenty of toilet roll, so why isn't it on the shelves.

 

Limiting opening times and rationing essentials to silly levels increases the risk to everyone. They should be expanding opening times if anything, to spread out the influx of customers.

 

£30 a day limit is a ridiculous idea, as is no trolleys -  family of 4, you are going to have to go shopping 200 times a year with such a limit.

 

 

 

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37 minutes ago, fools said:

Why are the people who prepare for the inevitable being castigated?   "Greedy, selfish, idiots" etc. You are probably doing the same.

 

Every single visit to the supermarket increases your risk of being infected, or passing on the infection.  Any vaccine is at least a year away. The vulnerable are being advised to isolate for 12 weeks, and everyone is being told to avoid all unnecessary human contact.

 

If you are in a financial position to do so, you'd be stupid to not fill up your trolley in order to limit your risk of dying prematurely. Who are we to judge other peoples trolley contents, they could be buying for 10 people, or have IBS.

 

Any ire should be saved for the supply chain, and the retail outlets, empty shelves increases anxiety. We are told there is plenty of food, plenty of toilet roll, so why isn't it on the shelves.

 

Limiting opening times and rationing essentials to silly levels increases the risk to everyone. They should be expanding opening times if anything, to spread out the influx of customers.

 

£30 a day limit is a ridiculous idea, as is no trolleys -  family of 4, you are going to have to go shopping 200 times a year with such a limit.

 

 

 

Not all people are in the same position. For example, I have a guaranteed delivery slot with Ocado every Sunday morning. I have no need to venture to the shops and hoard stupid amounts. 

 

Everyone needs to stop doing what they are doing in purchasing behaviour and go back to normalcy but with the added element of social distancing. Supermarkets could help by limiting the maximum number of people allowed in their store at any one time. I have seen pharmacists do this. 

 

As for no trolleys, I would go further and say no baskets either. It has already been proven that the Coronavirus can stay on surfaces for hours if not days. Unless they are cleaned regularly, you have a perfect vector right there. You should be using your own bags instead. 

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The current situation is as far removed from normality as it gets.

 

People who have weeks or months of food in the house, don't have to go food shopping as often, so are saving people lives as a result.

 

Home delivery vans are not the cleanest of environments.

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55 minutes ago, fools said:
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Why are the people who prepare for the inevitable being castigated?   "Greedy, selfish, idiots" etc. You are probably doing the same.

Because they are - and no, not everyone is doing the same. Buying excessively is unneccessary, selfish and greedy.

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Every single visit to the supermarket increases your risk of being infected, or passing on the infection.  Any vaccine is at least a year away. The vulnerable are being advised to isolate for 12 weeks, and everyone is being told to avoid all unnecessary human contact.

 

If you are in a financial position to do so, you'd be stupid to not fill up your trolley in order to limit your risk of dying prematurely. Who are we to judge other peoples trolley contents, they could be buying for 10 people, or have IBS.

 

On the contrary, you'd be sensible, considerate to others and not a total dick.

 

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Any ire should be saved for the supply chain, and the retail outlets, empty shelves increases anxiety. We are told there is plenty of food, plenty of toilet roll, so why isn't it on the shelves.

Because of greedy, selfish idiots who can't contain themselves.

 

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53 minutes ago, fools said:

 

 

People who have weeks or months of food in the house, don't have to go food shopping as often, so are saving people lives as a result.

Probably got it by being selfish, stupid and inconsiderate, causing great alarm and distress to others and in some cases, directly leaving others - including some of the most poor and vulnerable - to go hungry.

 

That 'saving people's lives as a result' is hogwash, by the way and a cheap attempt to dress up greed, selfishness and stupidity as altruism.

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On that basis, the whole idea of social distancing is hogwash then, we can all ignore what the doctors are telling us, because virtue signalling

 

It has nothing to do with greed. You are being isolated for 12 weeks (for your, and everyone else's safety), you have no one to fetch your groceries, you buy 12 weeks of groceries.

 

How many days food and toilet roll should we be allowed to buy at once, what is a reasonable amount in your view.

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22 minutes ago, fools said:

On that basis, the whole idea of social distancing is hogwash then, we can all ignore what the doctors are telling us, because virtue signalling

 

It has nothing to do with greed. You are being isolated for 12 weeks, you have no one to fetch your groceries, you buy 12 weeks of groceries.

 

How many days food and toilet roll should we be allowed to buy at once, what is a reasonable amount in your view.

There's no good reason for anyone attempting to buy 12 weeks worth of food at once. It's sheer stupidity.

Social distancing doesn't mean you can't leave the house, nor does it mean you can't go out to buy food.

 

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The people on the cruise ship were socially distanced, it didn't seem to do them any good. They had aircon,  and potentially shared touch points, just like supermarkets.

 

If you aren't nervous about going to the supermarket, you should be. The fact you are allowed to is irrelevant.

 

If it was practical to shut down supermarkets now, it would have been done.

 

The most vulnerable (current and ex) nhs patients are about to get a recommendation to keep away from other people, for 12 weeks. All of us should be taking the same precautions if at all possible

 

You omitted the answer to the question, where does greed kick in?

 

 

 

 

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Watch the YouTube piece ( post 927) on the 'Coronavirus' thread and then think again.

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43 minutes ago, fools said:

The people on the cruise ship were socially distanced, it didn't seem to do them any good. They had aircon,  and potentially shared touch points, just like supermarkets.

 

 

The risk profile of a ship is totally different to a  supermarket. People on ships are cooped up together 24x7. Other things like norvirus spread easily on ships too.  You spend at most 30 minutes in a supermarket, less if you know what you want , get it and go. If the bulk of the other people in the supermarket  have been socially distancing themselves and have isolated for 7 or 14 days if necessary then the risk of infection will be fairly low. 

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The people on the ship were isolated in their own rooms for weeks in a known infection control situation, and 100s still got infected. A wall beats the 2m open space aerosol spray risk hands down,,, except for the aircon.

 

Other possible vectors are food trays, or food, or water or sewage.

 

Regardless, the bottom line is don't go out if you don't have to unless you want to end up possibly gasping for your last breath 22 days later, until there is a cure for this, it's stupid. That includes unnecessary supermarkets visits. 

 

And if you are planning on relying on home deliveries, put the food aside for a few days and wash your hands once delivered, in case the packaging is contaminated

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1 minute ago, fools said:

The people on the ship were isolated in their own rooms for weeks, and 100s got infected. A wall beats the 2m open space aerosol spray risk hands down,,, except for the aircon.

 

Other possible vectors are food trays, or food, or water or sewage.

 

Regardless, the bottom line is don't go out if you don't have to unless you want to end up possibly gasping for your last breath 22 days later, until there is a cure for this, it's stupid. That includes unnecessary supermarkets visits. 

Agree with most of what you have posted Fools..

I like a drink, can,t go my to my local anymore, so went to Asda to stock my own supplies up, which are becoming depleted.

3 bottles max, so now I'm making repeated trips to the Supermarket...

Just of to Morrisons.

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