L00b Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 (edited) 14 hours ago, makapaka said: Riddle me this. (...) Are you asking me to give you a dumbed-down version of my post? Edited February 26, 2020 by L00b Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_bloke Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 10 hours ago, makapaka said: Maybe so. but it’s a lot easier to reimburse for a cheese sandwich than change business culture as a whole. whats the problem - people don’t only eat meat and they can eat meat any other time. As both myself and Loob have mentioned, how does this work over a prolonged period of time? Have you ever had to claim expenses for more than a sandwich on a day out yourself? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L00b Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 (edited) 5 hours ago, the_bloke said: As both myself and Loob have mentioned, how does this work over a prolonged period of time? Well, for the pro-vegetarians, it works great: workers on expense get weaned off meat products, and hopefully adopt vegetarian dietary ways over time ; and ever more of them if the policy gains traction, resulting in ever less meat consumed by workers on expenses. Virtuous circle, so far as (proselyte) vegetarians are concerned. The eventual knock-on effect on the meat supply market and pricing, helps turn meat products into ever more of a luxury, a state of affairs readily accepted by most everyone by then, conditioned as they have become to only ever eat meat as a special personal treat. Know your place, peasants worker bees: meat is for your lord bosses and shareholders only Edited February 26, 2020 by L00b Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest makapaka Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 5 hours ago, the_bloke said: As both myself and Loob have mentioned, how does this work over a prolonged period of time? Have you ever had to claim expenses for more than a sandwich on a day out yourself? Yes I incur expenses every day. ive worked away permanently and semi permanently and only worked in my home town for small periods in my entire working life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whiteowl Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 Alcohol is not required to live, food is - hence one is expensible and the other isn't. If I worked there, I'd eat whatever I wanted and just claim an extra hour of overtime to expense it if they weren't going to pay it (unless of course they're salaried, but there are ways and means round most systems) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin-H Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 31 minutes ago, whiteowl said: Alcohol is not required to live, food is - hence one is expensible and the other isn't. If I worked there, I'd eat whatever I wanted and just claim an extra hour of overtime to expense it if they weren't going to pay it (unless of course they're salaried, but there are ways and means round most systems) Meat isn’t required to live either. They are still letting people claim for food. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECCOnoob Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 1 hour ago, Robin-H said: Meat isn’t required to live either. They are still letting people claim for food. .......but only with the extreme exclusions of food products which are widely accepted and readilly available, instead choosing to limit such food choice to just items that THEY personally deem morally acceptable. You really think that's right for an employer to place such restrictions on their staff - even more so when they are working outside of normal hours and away from their home? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin-H Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 3 minutes ago, ECCOnoob said: .......but only with the extreme exclusions of food products which are widely accepted and readilly available, instead choosing to limit such food choice to just items that THEY personally deem morally acceptable. You really think that's right for an employer to place such restrictions on their staff - even more so when they are working outside of normal hours and away from their home? I think it's absolutely within their right yes. I don't think saying they won't pay for meat is an 'extreme exclusion' of food products. The company is trying to be more eco conscious, and have determined that incentivising the reduction in meat consumption is a relatively easy way of achieving this, considering the well established and understood negative impacts that meat production has on the environment. They are not saying you can't eat meat. You can work there and gorge 24 hours a day on ribeye steak and nobody could stop you. All they are saying is that they won't pay for the privilege, and let's not forget that the western diet is a privilege. The earth could not sustain us if everyone ate a western diet. It can barely sustain us now. I think people complaining and crying discrimination about this one attempt to reduce their environmental impact need to look at the the bigger picture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest makapaka Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 6 minutes ago, Robin-H said: I think it's absolutely within their right yes. I don't think saying they won't pay for meat is an 'extreme exclusion' of food products. The company is trying to be more eco conscious, and have determined that incentivising the reduction in meat consumption is a relatively easy way of achieving this, considering the well established and understood negative impacts that meat production has on the environment. They are not saying you can't eat meat. You can work there and gorge 24 hours a day on ribeye steak and nobody could stop you. All they are saying is that they won't pay for the privilege, and let's not forget that the western diet is a privilege. The earth could not sustain us if everyone ate a western diet. It can barely sustain us now. I think people complaining and crying discrimination about this one attempt to reduce their environmental impact need to look at the the bigger picture. Amen brother/sister. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rachelmum Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 (edited) 45 minutes ago, Robin-H said: I think it's absolutely within their right yes. I don't think saying they won't pay for meat is an 'extreme exclusion' of food products. The company is trying to be more eco conscious, and have determined that incentivising the reduction in meat consumption is a relatively easy way of achieving this, considering the well established and understood negative impacts that meat production has on the environment. They are not saying you can't eat meat. You can work there and gorge 24 hours a day on ribeye steak and nobody could stop you. All they are saying is that they won't pay for the privilege, and let's not forget that the western diet is a privilege. The earth could not sustain us if everyone ate a western diet. It can barely sustain us now. I think people complaining and crying discrimination about this one attempt to reduce their environmental impact need to look at the the bigger picture. I think people need to eat alot less meat to sustain them than vegetables, berries, fruit. Look back in history humans have always ate meat and always will. There is a thriving need for all aspects of food buying. In a world where there has never been so much diversity in race, sexual orientation, where especially in citieslike Sheffield range of food choices from around the world. It just seems so narrow minded to dictate food choices 🙄 Edited February 26, 2020 by rachelmum Spelling error Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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