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30 minutes ago, Magilla said:

Well if you did, you might have been able to spell it correctly :hihi:

 

...but since you don't, and can't, you don't really have anything to complain about.

 

3 hours ago, ECCOnoob said:

Like LBC???   - you seriously trying to compare a single radio station which is already owned by global media corporation to the vast multi-platform multi-channel and multi jurisdiction operations under the remit of the BBC.

 

What the hell are you talking about. It's nothing like the same comparison.

 

Unless you have a copy of Steve Wright's contract obligations you have no idea what parts of his own program he directly has influence upon.   Even if he doesn't choose his own music - so what?   The money earned by him is derived  from how much people are prepared to pay for his talent.

 

Brad Pitt and George Clooney don't write and produce the movie that they get paid to star in do they?    Doesn't stop the paying public from wanting to see THEM not some behind the scenes staff does it.  

 

As for the rest of your guff about duplication - you completely fail to appreciate it us viewers and listeners that want that.   You can't have regional programs and regional radio stations presented by a single person in a single location.   Commercial stations are already tying that "networked" way of delivery and received much criticism for it from us very public.  As a perfect example our own Hallam FM which only appears to have 1 to 2 shows a week which are actually broadcast from their Sheffield studio.  The rest of the schedule is streamed in from Manchester or London  or anywhere else where they feel convenient.   Hardly great local content is it?  

 

Look at the fuss created over Look North and the supposed bias between the amount of Leeds stories vs Sheffield ones.   Are you really trying to say that we would prefer an even more centralised approach to save money?  

 

Of course there are multiple presenters for news and weather across the network there has to be - how else do you think it's possible to get forecasts and bulletins delivered across numerous channels at different times and sometimes even in in different languages.   

 

It's all about the service that us public expect.   We can't have it both ways.   Yes of course there can be cuts to be made and I'm sure that this government will put pressure on the BBC to do so.   However we have to face facts about whether we want a truly complete public broadcaster as we seem to demand or we lose it and are left with no option but the wholly commercialised and dumbed down ITV network.  Let's see how many local radio stations they would be prepared to set up and run, how many religious services and educational programs would they  broadcast, how many specialist interest programs do you think they will put on air, how many independent current affairs and consumer programmes do you think they will be prepared to put on air (particularly ones that are freely able to raise criticism of their potential advertisers)....

 

All too easy to criticise until it's too late.

am thinking you're a member of the public sector employ??

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49 minutes ago, Chaddamp said:

 

am thinking you're a member of the public sector employ??

And? Is that supposed to be some sort of insult? Remember when private industry fails it's the public sector that has to bail them out (banks, railways etc)

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32 minutes ago, taxman said:

And? Is that supposed to be some sort of insult? Remember when private industry fails it's the public sector that has to bail them out (banks, railways etc)

no ….its the tax taken from the private sector business  that always has to pay ,and those monies comes from business that make money to pay their employees so HMRC can pay for the infra structure along with all the other combined taxes which now is just so high.No insult meant here, just stating a fact to you.

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2 hours ago, Chaddamp said:

 

am thinking you're a member of the public sector employ??

You might be thinking it but you will be completely inaccurate with your assumption.

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1 hour ago, Chaddamp said:

no ….its the tax taken from the private sector business  that always has to pay ,and those monies comes from business that make money to pay their employees so HMRC can pay for the infra structure along with all the other combined taxes which now is just so high.No insult meant here, just stating a fact to you.

If the public sector didn't have to keep on bailing out the failing private sector we might have more money to spend. 

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2 hours ago, taxman said:

If the public sector didn't have to keep on bailing out the failing private sector we might have more money to spend. 

The public sector is an essential part of the economy but it wouldn't and couldn't exist without the private sector. The idea that it could bail out the private sector is laughable. It might be unkind to say so, but stripped down to the basics, one is a fountain and the other is a drain.

Edited by Jim Hardie

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18 hours ago, Chaddamp said:

Sorry I don't agree with you at all. None of the license payers have a say on what happens within the quango organisation. Steve Wright gets £500000 for his show,he doesn't even pick what's played ! Tot up all the time he's on air per show and I bet its not longer than 45 minutes. BBC weather are over loaded with presenters whether it be on TV or radio,jobs are duplicated for every region in every department when most of news is got from central news so all they do is read it,not collate it.

If it ever gets to a vote to keep it or sell it  I'd vote to get rid along with Channel 4, like we did with BT,B Gas,British steel,water,British Leyland ,coal etc etc,they were all over manned over paid set ups heavily reliant on government to bail them.I don't want to pay the license fee as I don't want to watch the BBC,but I have no choice,and I don't like that.BBC need to be more efficient like LBC,BBC are not good value now.

IF....IF... you pay a licence, (note the spelling!), you paid £153 last year for news, sport, entertainment, information such as weather reports, local news and travel information.  There were 365 days in 2019. So you paid 41 pence a day for all that.  I don't know how many people are in your household but you can divide the 41 pence up accordingly.  If you take the free Metro tabloid with its scanty news coverage, pun intended, you get it free for FIVE days a week not seven and you will discard it as read in 30 minutes.  You cannot buy any other reliable and credible newspaper for less. ITV News does not have a comprehensive on-line service, nor does SKY.   They certainly do not have local reporters covering local issues.  If you want to know what life would be like without the BBC visit Australia, New Zealand or the USA where absolute drivel pours out of the speaker in the name of news, information and entertainment.  Sponsored news bulletins cannot possibly be un-biased. What is more, the link between sponsoring companies and all the data they have on you via Google, Facebook etc is looking sinister, to say the least. But you DO have a measure of input on BBC policy. There are various listener representative councils to whom you can make your views known if you take the trouble. You could even put yourself forward to serve on one.  It might help if you did a bit more homework first, though.  The truth is that a Better Britain needs both the BBC and a strong independent press as players in the world's best democracy. When did you last buy The Star ?

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You may as well offer me an Arsenal season ticket....I'm a Spurs fan,in other words you don't convince me,I detest having to pay for something I don't want.

Looks like government are with me on the BBC,they are asking for fee to be dropped and viewers subscribe to what channels they want to.As for the 41p  per day....perhaps you could pay for mine as I live totally on benefits due to being a full time carer for my wife who is seriously ill with Multiple sclerosis,shall I forward you my sort code?

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32 minutes ago, Chaddamp said:

You may as well offer me an Arsenal season ticket....I'm a Spurs fan,in other words you don't convince me,I detest having to pay for something I don't want.

Looks like government are with me on the BBC,they are asking for fee to be dropped and viewers subscribe to what channels they want to.As for the 41p  per day....perhaps you could pay for mine as I live totally on benefits due to being a full time carer for my wife who is seriously ill with Multiple sclerosis,shall I forward you my sort code?

Well dont pay for it then.    Nobody is forcing you.   If you have been continuing to pay the licence fee when you dont have to that's your own stupid fault.

 

Simple solution.   Dont watch broadcast television services and you dont have to pay for a licence.  The law is very clear.

 

Maybe if you had put a fraction of the effort into finding out basic facts like that as you have with your clearly anti-bbc anti-public sector ranting you could have saved a lot of money. 

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2 hours ago, Chaddamp said:

You may as well offer me an Arsenal season ticket....I'm a Spurs fan,in other words you don't convince me,I detest having to pay for something I don't want.

Looks like government are with me on the BBC,they are asking for fee to be dropped and viewers subscribe to what channels they want to.As for the 41p  per day....perhaps you could pay for mine as I live totally on benefits due to being a full time carer for my wife who is seriously ill with Multiple sclerosis,shall I forward you my sort code?

So we should only pay for things we want to pay for? Can I opt out of the part of my tax/NI contribution which ends up in your pocket? No, I can't, and I wouldn't ever want to. Sometimes it is worth paying for something which contributes to the good of society, and I count most of what the BBC does in that category. 

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17 hours ago, Jim Hardie said:

The public sector is an essential part of the economy but it wouldn't and couldn't exist without the private sector. The idea that it could bail out the private sector is laughable. It might be unkind to say so, but stripped down to the basics, one is a fountain and the other is a drain.

Do you think the billions of public money poured into banks in order to bail them out since 2008 is laughable ?

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4 hours ago, Chaddamp said:

You may as well offer me an Arsenal season ticket....I'm a Spurs fan,in other words you don't convince me,I detest having to pay for something I don't want.

Looks like government are with me on the BBC,they are asking for fee to be dropped and viewers subscribe to what channels they want to.As for the 41p  per day....perhaps you could pay for mine as I live totally on benefits due to being a full time carer for my wife who is seriously ill with Multiple sclerosis,shall I forward you my sort code?

Presumably  you think tax payers who are not in receipt of any welfare benefit should be able to opt out of paying for benefits such as yours then ?

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