Sheffield Left Out

[bassett one]

oven ready and ready to go,no problem,we have it all sorted,OMG what a mess and if we leave with no deal,how are we fixed then with the irish boarder?,all bluther and smoke,i reckon it will be sorted later ,and both sides will say they got the best deal.

[Magilla]

4 hours ago, bassett one said:

oven ready and ready to go,no problem,we have it all sorted,OMG what a mess and if we leave with no deal,how are we fixed then with the irish boarder?,all bluther and smoke,i reckon it will be sorted later ,and both sides will say they got the best deal.

According to Bloomberg, the markets think Boris is about to walk back on the treaty breaking parts of the IM bill.

[L00b]

16 hours ago, Magilla said:

According to Bloomberg, the markets think Boris is about to walk back on the treaty breaking parts of the IM bill.

Good for the UK if he does. But if he doesn't-

20 hours ago, bassett one said:

oven ready and ready to go,no problem,we have it all sorted,OMG what a mess and if we leave with no deal,how are we fixed then with the irish boarder?,all bluther and smoke,i reckon it will be sorted later ,and both sides will say they got the best deal.

-and the transition period ends without a deal, then the EU will enact its unilateral provisions (what Leavers currently call Swiss-like mini-deals ; but they're nothing of the sort), a by-product of which should be to at least keep the lights on in the UK.

 

The Irish border is fixed by the Protocol to the Withdrawal Agreement regardless of whether there is a deal or not.

 

Unless that is, the UK then makes good on its promise to overrule that Protocol under the Internal Market Bill (and so breach both international law and its written word as a bond, twice: long before it co-penned and signed the WA, the UK had co-penned and signed the GFA).

 

In that case, then the Republic of Ireland and Northern Ireland would have no choice but to set up a hard border. Any eventual blood letting over that, to be fairly and squarely on Leavers' hands.

 

I see in today's news, that not only did Tory MPs vote majoritarily to deny a physical proof of settled status to EU27inUK, they also took the opportunity of sniping UK citizens in Europe with their nationalist rhetoric, and voted majoritarily to reject protections for child refugees.

 

No words, really. 

Edited October 20, 2020 by L00b

[whiteowl]

The Lords have voted to ensure trade deals meet UK animal welfare and food safety rules.

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-54615820

 

Wonder if the shambles in No. 10 will used the Parliament Act to force the bill through 🤔

[Marsman]

On 20/02/2020 at 16:58, melthebell said:

bit like this brexit nonsense then...just throwing money away

Brexit would have been a lot cheaper if we weren't messing around for 4 years and instead got on with it from the get-go.

[tinfoilhat]

12 minutes ago, Marsman said:

Brexit would have been a lot cheaper if we weren't messing around for 4 years and instead got on with it from the get-go.

How so?

[L00b]

4 hours ago, tinfoilhat said:

How so?

Oh well, gee, lemme guess: slam the door out on WTO terms, when the Article 50 instrument was delivered to Brussels at end March 2017.

 

AmIrite or amIrite?

 

It's quite amazing some people are still that dumb 4 years on. When even the very shysters who sold them the Leave vote 4 years ago, Johnson-Gove-Raab-& Co. are going on the record clear and loud now, and telling like it is and always was: this is going to hurt.

 

Or maybe they're posting to get a rise and laugh. Heh, I guess we'll see who laughs loudest in a few months, deal or no deal. Read up about VAT changes yet?  

Edited October 23, 2020 by L00b

[Longcol]

Brexit - Cake and Eat It (part 94)

 

Johnson wants a UK passport to still have a fast track entry to the EU.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/oct/23/uk-presses-for-use-of-faster-passport-gates-at-eu-airports-post-brexit

 

Presumably taking control of your borders only works one way...........................

[melthebell]

54 minutes ago, Longcol said:

Brexit - Cake and Eat It (part 94)

 

Johnson wants a UK passport to still have a fast track entry to the EU.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/oct/23/uk-presses-for-use-of-faster-passport-gates-at-eu-airports-post-brexit

 

Presumably taking control of your borders only works one way...........................

of course it is, its all fantasy nonsense

 

in the real world it works BOTH ways

[fuddyduddy4]

19 hours ago, L00b said:

Oh well, gee, lemme guess: slam the door out on WTO terms, when the Article 50 instrument was delivered to Brussels at end March 2017.

 

AmIrite or amIrite?

 

It's quite amazing some people are still that dumb 4 years on. When even the very shysters who sold them the Leave vote 4 years ago, Johnson-Gove-Raab-& Co. are going on the record clear and loud now, and telling like it is and always was: this is going to hurt.

 

Or maybe they're posting to get a rise and laugh. Heh, I guess we'll see who laughs loudest in a few months, deal or no deal. Read up about VAT changes yet?  

While I bow to your obvious knowledge of the workings of the EU and politics LOOb ,I can’t help thinking your replies on this website smacks at William Joyce(Lord Haw Haw).Do you really dislike the UK and it’s inhabitants that much?

[Organgrinder]

21 hours ago, L00b said:

Oh well, gee, lemme guess: slam the door out on WTO terms, when the Article 50 instrument was delivered to Brussels at end March 2017.

 

AmIrite or amIrite?

 

It's quite amazing some people are still that dumb 4 years on. When even the very shysters who sold them the Leave vote 4 years ago, Johnson-Gove-Raab-& Co. are going on the record clear and loud now, and telling like it is and always was: this is going to hurt.

 

Or maybe they're posting to get a rise and laugh. Heh, I guess we'll see who laughs loudest in a few months, deal or no deal. Read up about VAT changes yet?  

You should refrain from calling people who do not share your views "dumb"

I voted leave and no shysters of any kind had a part in selling anything to me nor did they have any effect on my decision as I had been unhappy about our EU membership for years.

Whether you like it or not, I, and many others, think for ourselves and if the result is not to your liking then, tough - you'll have to learn to live with it.

Despite your upset, we will still be finally out and, despite it being a long time coming, we can make our own choices again.

[Car Boot]

21 hours ago, L00b said:

Oh well, gee, lemme guess: slam the door out on WTO terms, when the Article 50 instrument was delivered to Brussels at end March 2017.

 

AmIrite or amIrite?

 

It's quite amazing some people are still that dumb 4 years on. When even the very shysters who sold them the Leave vote 4 years ago, Johnson-Gove-Raab-& Co. are going on the record clear and loud now, and telling like it is and always was: this is going to hurt.

 

Or maybe they're posting to get a rise and laugh. Heh, I guess we'll see who laughs loudest in a few months, deal or no deal. Read up about VAT changes yet?  

Your posts just reinforce the opinion of many Leave voters that we were correct to support Brexit and be rid of the arrogant, out of touch EU. 

 

We knew Brexit wasn't going to be easy, with the EU desperate to set an example and punish the UK for voting to Leave. But we did know it would be worth it.