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Car Boot - can you please give us the evidential benefits of leaving the EU.

 

Not your indoctrination by the right wingers of the leave campaign, the facts?

 

Thanks...

 

 

 

 

Waiting...

 

 

 

Waiting...

 

 

 

 

 

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12 minutes ago, tzijlstra said:

Excellent, I am genuinely impressed by your impressionability. So what are the advantages for the working class again? 

I think its interesting that a Remain voter actually care's about what may advantage the working class.

 

One thing that's become patently obvious since the referendum is the high level of disdain most remain voters have for the working class and the underclass.

 

Brexit was a working class revolt against the establishment that will advantage the working class by:

 

1. Ending the control of the unelected EU Commissioners and the anti-trade union, anti-worker, European Court of Justice. So Brexit frees our elected Parliament from the control of those we don’t elect.

 

2. It will advantage the working class by bringing our borders back under national control, enabling us to begin proper labour market planning. Free movement is a capitalist con trick that makes slaves and nomads of the poorest to suit the short term needs of big business.

 

3. We have the chance to rebalance the economy away from financial services to manufacturing and production. State aid, negotiating trade deals that benefit the UK, renationalising major utilities are ALL incompatible with membership of the Single Market. 

 

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Just now, Car Boot said:

I think its interesting that a Remain voter actually care's about what may advantage the working class.

 

One thing that's become patently obvious since the referendum is the high level of disdain most remain voters have for the working class and the underclass.

 

Brexit was a working class revolt against the establishment that will advantage the working class by:

 

1. Ending the control of the unelected EU Commissioners and the anti-trade union, anti-worker, European Court of Justice. So Brexit frees our elected Parliament from the control of those we don’t elect.

 

2. It will advantage the working class by bringing our borders back under national control, enabling us to begin proper labour market planning. Free movement is a capitalist con trick that makes slaves and nomads of the poorest to suit the short term needs of big business.

 

3. We have the chance to rebalance the economy away from financial services to manufacturing and production. State aid, negotiating trade deals that benefit the UK, renationalising major utilities are ALL incompatible with membership of the Single Market. 

 

And naturally a right wing Tory government will deliver all those to the working class...............................................

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Just now, retep said:

How do you work that one out when leave won.

Sorry - we have been through this before...

 

 

Population of the UK in 2016 - 65 million

Population that voted leave - 17 million...

 

 

17/65 is nowhere near half - unless you don't understand the term majority,  (my guess) you cannot claim the majority of the UK voted leave...

 

 

Blah blah blah.

 

Don't care any more...

 

retep - you dug your hole and for the rest of time we will be pointing out that the leave voter s turned the UK into the 3rd world country we will become...

 

Well done... one handed clap for you, world's tiniest violins are playing for you as you descend into a no deal oblivion - where it the "easiest deal in history" now?

 

 

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4 minutes ago, Car Boot said:

I think its interesting that a Remain voter actually care's about what may advantage the working class.

 

One thing that's become patently obvious since the referendum is the high level of disdain most remain voters have for the working class and the underclass.

 

Brexit was a working class revolt against the establishment that will advantage the working class by:

 

1. Ending the control of the unelected EU Commissioners and the anti-trade union, anti-worker, European Court of Justice. So Brexit frees our elected Parliament from the control of those we don’t elect.

 

2. It will advantage the working class by bringing our borders back under national control, enabling us to begin proper labour market planning. Free movement is a capitalist con trick that makes slaves and nomads of the poorest to suit the short term needs of big business.

 

3. We have the chance to rebalance the economy away from financial services to manufacturing and production. State aid, negotiating trade deals that benefit the UK, renationalising major utilities are ALL incompatible with membership of the Single Market. 

 

Presumably that’s the reason why Rees-Mogg, Farage and Banks are all ardent leave supporters. They are a pretty hardcore bunch of socialists 

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3 minutes ago, Car Boot said:

I think its interesting that a Remain voter actually care's about what may advantage the working class.

 

One thing that's become patently obvious since the referendum is the high level of disdain most remain voters have for the working class and the underclass.

 

Brexit was a working class revolt against the establishment that will advantage the working class by:

 

1. Ending the control of the unelected EU Commissioners and the anti-trade union, anti-worker, European Court of Justice. So Brexit frees our elected Parliament from the control of those we don’t elect.

 

2. It will advantage the working class by bringing our borders back under national control, enabling us to begin proper labour market planning. Free movement is a capitalist con trick that makes slaves and nomads of the poorest to suit the short term needs of big business.

 

3. We have the chance to rebalance the economy away from financial services to manufacturing and production. State aid, negotiating trade deals that benefit the UK, renationalising major utilities are ALL incompatible with membership of the Single Market. 

 

I care about education (p.s. cares not care's).

No we don't, we care about everyone which is why we are trying to get the best deal for everyone, as opposed to you who don't care what the deal is as long as it disadvantages the higher classes.

 

Brexit was a chance to kick the London elite, which in the end kicked the whole country.

 

Instead of the elected Euro MPs, we now have a dictatorial liar, cheat,s exit and racist ruling by decree rather by democracy.

 

The working class are already being thrown to the wolves by your elected dictator looking toine the pockets of his bankers and financiers by chucking manufacturing and utilities into the wind.

 

Well done, my little trotskyite, you have fulfilled the National Socialist Parties aim...

3 minutes ago, Pettytom said:

Presumably that’s the reason why Rees-Mogg, Farage and Banks are all ardent leave supporters. They are a pretty hardcore bunch of socialists 

That'll be the Farage who has his 2 children on German passports, and the Rees-Mogg with the offshore hedge fund...

p.s. Still waiting...

 

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Still waiting...

 

Any evidence - please...

 

not even £350M worth....

 

 

Perhaps a straight banana's worth... (oh, I forgot that was another of the lying PM's claims, and therefore is already discounted)...

 

 

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Waiting

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3 hours ago, retep said:

Perhaps you missed this bit,

"Under the disastrous Withdrawal Agreement and its Transition Period, the UK is still bound by the EU's rules on food safety. If we had wished to restore the previous rules where our meat inspectors could do more than a visual inspection of a pig which might be infected, we could not have done so."

We could have. The EU wide rules are a minimum standard. Each member state can impose more stringent rules if they choose to do so.

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29 minutes ago, Litotes said:

Sorry - we have been through this before...

 

 

Population of the UK in 2016 - 65 million

Population that voted leave - 17 million...

 

 

17/65 is nowhere near half - unless you don't understand the term majority,  (my guess) you cannot claim the majority of the UK voted leave...

 

 

Blah blah blah.

 

Don't care any more...

 

retep - you dug your hole and for the rest of time we will be pointing out that the leave voter s turned the UK into the 3rd world country we will become...

 

Well done... one handed clap for you, world's tiniest violins are playing for you as you descend into a no deal oblivion - where it the "easiest deal in history" now?

 

 

Just for the record.  You do realise that when you quote a population of  65 million, you do realise that you're including a proportion of the population under the age of 18 who were ineligible to vote, don't you?

 

We're going over old data but just in case anyone is in any doubt, here's the full details again. 

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/politics/eu_referendum/results

 

72.2% turnout of the eligible voting population, so well over two thirds of the eligible voting population.  I'd call that a fair turnout. 

 

Of course what I do recall from the few weeks before the referendum was many news reports showing many an enthusiastic 'Remain' supporter, stating how they were going to vote tactically on the day, such as how students weren't going to vote in their home towns & cities but vote in the cities where they were studying or people stating they were mobilising & concentrating their efforts in certain parts of the UK through groups organised via the Internet / chat rooms. 

 

It seems with hindsight that they were being so clever, they actually forgot to vote? 

 

There is no getting away from the FACT that just over 17,410,000 / just over 52% of the eligible voting population in a turnout of 72.2% voted to leave. 

 

History will recall these FACTS. 

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3 minutes ago, BigPP said:

We could have. The EU wide rules are a minimum standard. Each member state can impose more stringent rules if they choose to do so.

Indeed, "fish pillows" spring to mind :hihi:

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5 minutes ago, Baron99 said:

Just for the record.  You do realise that when you quote a population of  65 million, you do realise that you're including a proportion of the population under the age of 18 who were ineligible to vote, don't you?

 

We're going over old data but just in case anyone is in any doubt, here's the full details again. 

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/politics/eu_referendum/results

 

72.2% turnout of the eligible voting population, so welk over two thirds of the eligible voting population.  I'd call that a fair turnout. 

 

Of course what I do recall from the few weeks before the election was many news reports showing many an enthusiastic 'Remain' supporter, stating how they were going to vote tactically on the day, such as how students weren't going to vote in their home towns & cities but vote in the cities where they were studying or people stating they were mobilising & concentrating their efforts in certain parts of the UK through groups organised via the Internet / chat rooms. 

 

It seems with hindsight that they were being so clever, they actually forgot to vote? 

 

There is no getting away from the FACT that just over 17,410,000 / just over 52% of the eligible voting population in a turnout of 72.2% voted to leave. 

 

History will recall these FACTS. 

Sorry - not clear if you are talking about the referendum or last years GE here.

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31 minutes ago, Litotes said:

Sorry - we have been through this before...

 

 

Population of the UK in 2016 - 65 million

Population that voted leave - 17 million...

 

 

17/65 is nowhere near half - unless you don't understand the term majority,  (my guess) you cannot claim the majority of the UK voted leave...

 

 

Blah blah blah.

 

Don't care any more...

 

retep - you dug your hole and for the rest of time we will be pointing out that the leave voter s turned the UK into the 3rd world country we will become...

 

Well done... one handed clap for you, world's tiniest violins are playing for you as you descend into a no deal oblivion - where it the "easiest deal in history" now?

 

 

Why do you assume that 65 million people in the UK have the right to vote?

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