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43 minutes ago, Baron99 said:

My bold. 

 

That's a massive statement to make without any back up? 

 

Or are you going to provide evidence such as this to support the claim? 

There so much evidence it's pretty hard to miss...

 

"In hindsight, do you think Britain was right or wrong to vote to leave the EU?"

https://whatukthinks.org/eu/questions/in-highsight-do-you-think-britain-was-right-or-wrong-to-vote-to-leave-the-eu/

 

one amongst many...

 

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And another...

 

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I think you'll find the figure of 17,410,000 vastly out weighs any tiny poll you care to put up.  

 

17,410,000 is & always will be the only figure recognised by history. 

LOL, and it's very likely those 17,410,000  are going to be recorded by history as plonkers! :hihi:

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23 minutes ago, Magilla said:

There so much evidence it's pretty hard to miss...

 

"In hindsight, do you think Britain was right or wrong to vote to leave the EU?"

https://whatukthinks.org/eu/questions/in-highsight-do-you-think-britain-was-right-or-wrong-to-vote-to-leave-the-eu/

 

one amongst many...

 

And another...

 

LOL, and it's very likely those 17,410,000  are going to be recorded by history as plonkers! :hihi:

No large scale sample survey figures to back up your previous claim that the MAJORITY of UK voters want to remain with the EU then?  Thought that would be difficult to prove? 

 

17,410,000 or 52%?  Take your pick?

 

I don't care what people say, triumphalism isn't underrated. 

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5 hours ago, retep said:

Yes and now we are out of the EU we may be making rules against it, keep your pigs heads and enjoy your sausages,

https://facts4eu.org/news/2020_sep_eu_food_dangers

 

 

Excellent, I assume you are guaranteeing we will have better food standards in this country then, yeah? See below. 

5 hours ago, Car Boot said:

Over fours years later and the will of the people has only strengthened against EU membership. Elections have been lost by those who sought to overturn the referendum result. Affluent middle class people have marched on the streets to cancel the votes of the majority Leave side.

 

To Leave the EU is what I voted for. I still believe that this was the correct choice, over four years later. No part of the EU in that time has said, or done, anything to introduce any element of doubt to that belief, that I may have voted the wrong way. In fact, it seems to me, the EU has since June 2016 been working hard to convince me that I voted correctly.

 

Its shocking that the EU has done so little in the four years since the vote to persuade Leave voters that they would be better in the EU. It only makes me think the EU really doesn't care about the UK, in which case we are Better Off Out.

I am delighted you are finally getting the outcome you want, now can you please explain how this will benefit 'us'? You know, the cornerstone of socialism 'for the benefit of the people', please do explain Car Boot. I am VERY curious. 

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5 hours ago, Car Boot said:

Its shocking that the EU has done so little in the four years since the vote to persuade Leave voters that they would be better in the EU. It only makes me think the EU really doesn't care about the UK, in which case we are Better Off Out.

So what should they have done - offered free beer and fags?

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6 minutes ago, Baron99 said:

No large scale sample survey figures to back up your previous claim that the MAJORITY of UK voters want to remain with the EU then?  Thought that would be difficult to prove? 

LOL... or yawn... not sure :?

 

You'd think there'd be a smattering of polls showing the opposite if the writing wasn't on the wall.

 

6 minutes ago, Baron99 said:

17,410,000 or 52%?  Take your pick?

That's a lot of plonkers! :)

 

6 minutes ago, Baron99 said:

I don't care what people say, triumphalism isn't underrated. 

Let's hope it last eh :hihi: :thumbsup:

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1 hour ago, retep said:

Perhaps you missed this bit,

"Under the disastrous Withdrawal Agreement and its Transition Period, the UK is still bound by the EU's rules on food safety. If we had wished to restore the previous rules where our meat inspectors could do more than a visual inspection of a pig which might be infected, we could not have done so."

Perhaps you can explain why you think that indicates that the UK's representatives in the EU were against the new rules.

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32 minutes ago, altus said:

Perhaps you can explain why you think that indicates that the UK's representatives in the EU were against the new rules.

Perhaps because the UK had left the EU and had no say in rule making.

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1 hour ago, tzijlstra said:

Excellent, I assume you are guaranteeing we will have better food standards in this country then, yeah? See below. 

I am delighted you are finally getting the outcome you want, now can you please explain how this will benefit 'us'? You know, the cornerstone of socialism 'for the benefit of the people', please do explain Car Boot. I am VERY curious. 

The June 2016 referendum exposed the gaping class divide in British society and gave a voice to the working class and the underclass for the first time in generations - much to the shock and horror of the status quo supporting affluent middle class and the rich. 

 

The working class are now visible again, thanks to the outcome of the vote, but are hated and feared for daring to vote anti-capitalist Leave. The supposed benefits of our EU membership have always been invisible to the poor. The middle class have reaped huge personal benefits from the EU in ways that have simply never been available to less privileged working class people.

 

Leave was generally a working class vote. Remain was generally a middle class vote. The fact that working class people voted against the interests of the middle class, despite being lectured and bullied by the full weight of the establishment to support Remain, makes me believe that the working class Leave voters are heroes.

 

Brexit is just the beginning.

 

56 minutes ago, Longcol said:

So what should they have done - offered free beer and fags?

Perhaps they shouldn't have attempted to punish the UK for democratically expressing it's opinion to Leave?

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12 minutes ago, Car Boot said:

Perhaps they shouldn't have attempted to punish the UK for democratically expressing it's opinion to Leave?

Evidence for this is?

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13 minutes ago, Car Boot said:

The June 2016 referendum exposed the gaping class divide in British society and gave a voice to the working class and the underclass for the first time in generations - much to the shock and horror of the status quo supporting affluent middle class and the rich. 

 

The working class are now visible again, thanks to the outcome of the vote, but are hated and feared for daring to vote anti-capitalist Leave. The supposed benefits of our EU membership have always been invisible to the poor. The middle class have reaped huge personal benefits from the EU in ways that have simply never been available to less privileged working class people.

 

Leave was generally a working class vote. Remain was generally a middle class vote. The fact that working class people voted against the interests of the middle class, despite being lectured and bullied by the full weight of the establishment to support Remain, makes me believe that the working class Leave voters are heroes.

 

Brexit is just the beginning.

 

Perhaps they shouldn't have attempted to punish the UK for democratically expressing it's opinion to Leave?

Excellent, I am genuinely impressed by your impressionability. So what are the advantages for the working class again? 

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1 hour ago, Baron99 said:

No large scale sample survey figures to back up your previous claim that the MAJORITY of UK voters want to remain with the EU then?  Thought that would be difficult to prove? 

 

17,410,000 or 52%?  Take your pick?

 

I don't care what people say, triumphalism isn't underrated. 

But the majority of UK voters never wanted to leave the EU...

Car Boot -  yada yada yada, yawn, socialist clap trap, people's democracy, take back control, yawn yawn yawn.

 

When will you give us some evidence based facts?

When will you admit that the sexist, racist, cheating lying, totalitarian you promoted as the new messiah is in fact a charlatan who is a right wing dictator who rules by decree?

 

 

My guess... never - because you wear (red)rose tinited spectacles that will never let you admit you were wrong... A true right wing totalitarian mindset!!!!!

 

Hail  Car Boot...

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4 minutes ago, Litotes said:

But the majority of UK voters never wanted to leave the EU...

How do you work that one out when leave won.

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