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26 minutes ago, West 77 said:

Boris did implement the WA on 31st January when we left the EU. The WA is an international treaty which both sides have an obligation to follow. The UK Government believe the EU  haven't been acting in good faith regarding a future trade agreement and are justified in making a minor change by means of a new domestic law. The UK  Government would be mugs to get into a position where their hands are tied regarding the NI situation if no trade agreement is agreed with the EU and WTO terms are implemented. We all should be supporting the actions our  elected Government are taking.

We should be supporting a government who breaks it's own agreement and international law? No chance.

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55 minutes ago, Pettytom said:

The French have so many delicious cheeses that I doubt that they’ll be interested in knocking off fake cheddar in any meaningful quantities 

Yet they buy it, looks like they are fed up with their own.

Wonder how much since the article.

"France develops a taste for British cheddar"

https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2012/dec/23/france-cheddar-cheese-sales-boom#:~:text=But the rise of cheddar,steadily 5% year on year.

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11 minutes ago, tinfoilhat said:

We should be supporting a government who breaks it's own agreement and international law? No chance.

 

Iain Duncan Smith:

“If there is anything about this arrangement [the WA bill] that we have not now debated, thrashed to death, I would love to know what it is”

 

A government who breaks it's own agreement...

 

...because they either lied to the electorate, or couldn't be bothered to actually read it!

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1 hour ago, West 77 said:

Boris did implement the WA on 31st January when we left the EU. The WA is an international treaty which both sides have an obligation to follow. The UK Government believe the EU  haven't been acting in good faith regarding a future trade agreement and are justified in making a minor change by means of a new domestic law. The UK  Government would be mugs to get into a position where their hands are tied regarding the NI situation if no trade agreement is agreed with the EU and WTO terms are implemented. We all should be supporting the actions our  elected Government are taking.

The government's hands will be tied over NI if we don't get a deal with the EU and fall back on WTO terms. The WTO rules state that you have to treat everyone you trade with on WTO terms equally. That means if the UK choses not to perform border checks on goods coming from the EU to the UK (via RoI to NI), they can't perform them on goods coming to the UK from anyone else we trade with under WTO terms. Now the WTO doesn't actively enforce it's rules, it waits for one of it's member countries to complain it's being treated unfairly - but without a deal that will include most countries after the end of this year and the chances of no countries complaining are vanishingly small.

 

So what would you prefer, a border between NI and RoI with a return to the troubles or no borders with anyone?

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45 minutes ago, retep said:

Yet they buy it, looks like they are fed up with their own.

Wonder how much since the article.

"France develops a taste for British cheddar"

https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2012/dec/23/france-cheddar-cheese-sales-boom#:~:text=But the rise of cheddar,steadily 5% year on year.

They can make their own in January.

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9 minutes ago, tinfoilhat said:

They can make their own in January.

They can now.

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44 minutes ago, tinfoilhat said:

They can make their own in January.

Nothing like being up to date with your links eh? 23/12/2012

49 minutes ago, altus said:

The government's hands will be tied over NI if we don't get a deal with the EU and fall back on WTO terms. The WTO rules state that you have to treat everyone you trade with on WTO terms equally. That means if the UK choses not to perform border checks on goods coming from the EU to the UK (via RoI to NI), they can't perform them on goods coming to the UK from anyone else we trade with under WTO terms. Now the WTO doesn't actively enforce it's rules, it waits for one of it's member countries to complain it's being treated unfairly - but without a deal that will include most countries after the end of this year and the chances of no countries complaining are vanishingly small.

 

So what would you prefer, a border between NI and RoI with a return to the troubles or no borders with anyone?

Break up of the UK is what's going to happen - Little Nicky Sturgeon has the backing, the Irish don't want the buffoon in charge of them and want to be in the EU - bye bye UK, thanks to Boris - the man who managed to break  the union of 300 years in less than 300 weeks...

Brilliant - and well done to the sheep who supported him and his lying, cheating, sexist, racist ways - you must be proud of yourselves - what a role model you are to your children!!!

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Daddy, Daddy, why are we in poverty?

 

Well, there was once this man who was an amazing story teller and who zipped down a wire like an amazing acrobat, and he told Daddy that he would make the country all good again, we would have control over everything, we would have a track and trace tool that would be world beating and  we would havea  moonshot - and that the world would be on their knees to trade with us...

 

Daddy, Daddy what happened?

 

Well, princess, what happened was that the many many sheep of the population who wanted to believe him, didn't read the facts, they didn't believe the tale the wicked experts were saying, telling them that the story teller was a buffoon who would tell everyone what they wanted to hear so that he wasn't kicked out of yet another job for lying (for indeed, he had been many times before). They ignored his track record of being nasty to his wife, of being rude to women, of poking fun at foreigners and of (allegedly) being violent to people (even suggesting that he would pay to kill someone) and then you know what happened princess?

 

No, what Daddy? What Daddy?

 

They voted him and his lapdogs into power and then he turned into this idiot who was only interested in his own life - it is alleged that his incompetence killed thousands of people, that his advisors sat in the Tower of Barnard and looked on the poor people they had locked in their own homes and laughed and laughed until his eyesight became so bad he had to return to the story teller's castle.

 

What happened next Daddy?

 

Well princess, this is when it gets really sad...

 

The story teller had signed a treaty with a neighbour and both were smiling about the treaty, but then the story teller decided that the treaty wasn't what he wanted (because he always wanted something else - when he was married, he wanted another woman, when he was an editor in a newspaper, he wanted another headline, so lied to get it) and so he said he wouldn't honour his word. And so the neighbour said that enough was enough and so the story teller's country was cast out into the wilderness...

 

And that, my princess, is why we are in poverty...

 

 

 

Pass the facemask please, princess, I can't get a test for 3 weeks because the NHS has no money because the story teller took all the money and gave it to the lawyers...

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6 hours ago, West 77 said:

It takes two to tango. If the EU could be trusted and had acted in good faith then the British government wouldn't feel the need to introduce the new domestic legislation. I'm over the moon we have a British government that puts precedence of British law over international law. I'm delighted we have a British Prime Minister who is making Britain great again. I'm more proud to be British today than the same time last year when we had a British parliament containing a majority of British MPs who blocked the implementation of a democratic choice made by the British electorate. 
 

So kindly point out where the EU have changed the terms of (or proposed changes to) the Withdrawal Agreement.

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18 minutes ago, Litotes said:

Daddy, Daddy, why are we in poverty?

 

Well, there was once this man who was an amazing story teller and who zipped down a wire like an amazing acrobat, and he told Daddy that he would make the country all good again, we would have control over everything, we would have a track and trace tool that would be world beating and  we would havea  moonshot - and that the world would be on their knees to trade with us...

 

Daddy, Daddy what happened?

 

Well, princess, what happened was that the many many sheep of the population who wanted to believe him, didn't read the facts, they didn't believe the tale the wicked experts were saying, telling them that the story teller was a buffoon who would tell everyone what they wanted to hear so that he wasn't kicked out of yet another job for lying (for indeed, he had been many times before). They ignored his track record of being nasty to his wife, of being rude to women, of poking fun at foreigners and of (allegedly) being violent to people (even suggesting that he would pay to kill someone) and then you know what happened princess?

 

No, what Daddy? What Daddy?

 

They voted him and his lapdogs into power and then he turned into this idiot who was only interested in his own life - it is alleged that his incompetence killed thousands of people, that his advisors sat in the Tower of Barnard and looked on the poor people they had locked in their own homes and laughed and laughed until his eyesight became so bad he had to return to the story teller's castle.

 

What happened next Daddy?

 

Well princess, this is when it gets really sad...

 

The story teller had signed a treaty with a neighbour and both were smiling about the treaty, but then the story teller decided that the treaty wasn't what he wanted (because he always wanted something else - when he was married, he wanted another woman, when he was an editor in a newspaper, he wanted another headline, so lied to get it) and so he said he wouldn't honour his word. And so the neighbour said that enough was enough and so the story teller's country was cast out into the wilderness...

 

And that, my princess, is why we are in poverty...

 

 

 

Pass the facemask please, princess, I can't get a test for 3 weeks because the NHS has no money because the story teller took all the money and gave it to the lawyers...

Can you pick up after yourself please? There's toys and dummies all over the place. 

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1 hour ago, Delayed said:

Can you pick up after yourself please? There's toys and dummies all over the place. 

Ahh, one of the proud to be in poverty people I guess - the ones who don't care that the PM has sold us down the river while feathering his own nest.

 

You must be really puffed up to be able to hold your head up and say - I support the lying cheating racist sexist people I voted in, and the debacle they have delivered for us - that was me that was - aren't I klever...?

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Just now, Litotes said:

Ahh, one of the proud to be in poverty people I guess - the ones who don't care that the PM has sold us down the river while feathering his own nest.

 

You must be really puffed up to be able to hold your head up and say - I support the lying cheating racist sexist people I voted in, and the debacle they have delivered for us - that was me that was - aren't I klever...?

Not at all, when you don't even know my name, I'd refrain from assuming how I voted. Afterall, wouldn't want to tar everybody with the same brush. I just find your meltdowns hilarious. 

 

Comedy gold. But it's reactions and responses like yours that keep Boris doing what he's doing. 

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