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Cost of enforcing the borders post Brexit is £7bn. 

 

This Brexit dividend is sweet. 

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4 minutes ago, Albert the Cat said:

Cost of enforcing the borders post Brexit is £7bn. 

 

This Brexit dividend is sweet. 

What does that total figure include?

 

CAPEX (Farage Garage, similar others between mainland & NI, barriers & buildings & IT system & whatnot...?) only?

 

With or without annualised running costs (eg 500 extra border guards)?

 

Industry costs factored in (50000 customs forms fillers-checkers, extra stockholding overhead, EU EORI/licences/biz visas...) or not?

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9 hours ago, whiteowl said:

The government has ordered a 27-acre site in Kent be transformed into a customs clearance centre.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/jul/12/local-anger-over-plans-for-post-brexit-lorry-park-at-ashford

 

It's already being labelled the "Farage Garage" 😂😂

The land had already been earmarked previously as the Stour Park industrial park, so the description of the area as an environmental idyll is somewhat a misnomer as it was going to be built on anyway & clearly had permission to be built on.  This is only a slight change of use.   I can't see many, if any, houses on the photograph or evidence of a nearby hospital? 

 

https://www.kentonline.co.uk/ashford/news/work-yet-to-start-on-brexit-lorry-park-site-230313/

 

And there doesn't appear to have been any previous objection from reading the Guardian piece to Amazon  possibly taking over the site, no doubt with hundreds of lorries running in & out 24/7, 365 days a year if any of their other warehouse sites are to go on?   Don't the locals want jobs & the additional businesses that will set up as support infrastructure?  Don't tell me they're all wealthy bankers who commute to London everyday.?

 

Careful you don't trip over the Gurniad's agenda & getting upset on your behalf. 

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1 hour ago, Baron99 said:

The land had already been earmarked previously as the Stour Park industrial park, so the description of the area as an environmental idyll is somewhat a misnomer as it was going to be built on anyway & clearly had permission to be built on.  This is only a slight change of use.   I can't see many, if any, houses on the photograph or evidence of a nearby hospital? 

 

https://www.kentonline.co.uk/ashford/news/work-yet-to-start-on-brexit-lorry-park-site-230313/

 

And there doesn't appear to have been any previous objection from reading the Guardian piece to Amazon  possibly taking over the site, no doubt with hundreds of lorries running in & out 24/7, 365 days a year if any of their other warehouse sites are to go on?   Don't the locals want jobs & the additional businesses that will set up as support infrastructure?  Don't tell me they're all wealthy bankers who commute to London everyday.?

 

Careful you don't trip over the Gurniad's agenda & getting upset on your behalf. 

Look on google maps.

 

https://www.google.fr/maps/place/Ashford,+UK/@51.1340563,0.9086386,14.5z/data=!4m5!3m4!1s0x47dec322dc36f387:0x280d4f34618ec61e!8m2!3d51.1464659!4d0.875019?hl=en&authuser=0

 

The William Harvey Hospital is just the other side of junction 10 of the M20 - about a quarter of a mile away. Housing at Willesborough is even closer.

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17 hours ago, Longcol said:

Look on google maps.

 

https://www.google.fr/maps/place/Ashford,+UK/@51.1340563,0.9086386,14.5z/data=!4m5!3m4!1s0x47dec322dc36f387:0x280d4f34618ec61e!8m2!3d51.1464659!4d0.875019?hl=en&authuser=0

 

The William Harvey Hospital is just the other side of junction 10 of the M20 - about a quarter of a mile away. Housing at Willesborough is even closer.

And the Hallamshire Hospital is bang in the middle of Sheffield city centre, surrounded by busy roads. 

 

I've noticed over the years that roads, which allow vehicles & people to get to a hospital, tend to be one of the most essential bits of infrastructure that allow a hospital to actually function. 

 

So the point is what? 

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Well, having painfully witnessed this government's catastrophic failure in response to Cv-19, I have no confidence in them to punch their way out of a paper bag, never mind negotiate or prepare for Brexit.

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12 hours ago, Baron99 said:

And the Hallamshire Hospital is bang in the middle of Sheffield city centre, surrounded by busy roads. 

 

I've noticed over the years that roads, which allow vehicles & people to get to a hospital, tend to be one of the most essential bits of infrastructure that allow a hospital to actually function. 

 

So the point is what? 

That a huge lorry park by the motorway junction could easily snarl up the junction and therefore access to the hospital, especially the A&E department?

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On 14 July 2020 at 22:38, Longcol said:

That a huge lorry park by the motorway junction could easily snarl up the junction and therefore access to the hospital, especially the A&E department?

If not that one in Ashford, maybe one or more of the other 4 new truck parks that Kent is getting ;)

 

I'm surprised noone has yet raised the UK's very own Internal Market, which Johnson's government is busy setting up right now.

 

The government's PR about it may ring a few bells, for those who remember Remain PR about the EU's Internal Market 4+ years ago: it's the exact same!

 

[government gas-lighting level: Godly :lol:]

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Amazon is cancelling FBA into EU for UK sellers from 1st Jan 2021.

 

https://tamebay.com/2020/07/amazon-fba-brexit-bombshell-efn-and-pan-european-fba-ends-for-uk.html

 

(not a "bombshell" at all, just more Project Fear turning to Project Fact)

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On 14/07/2020 at 21:38, Longcol said:

That a huge lorry park by the motorway junction could easily snarl up the junction and therefore access to the hospital, especially the A&E department?

At least they have a plan, unlike Coronavirus.

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3 hours ago, L00b said:

Amazon is cancelling FBA into EU for UK sellers from 1st Jan 2021.

 

https://tamebay.com/2020/07/amazon-fba-brexit-bombshell-efn-and-pan-european-fba-ends-for-uk.html

 

(not a "bombshell" at all, just more Project Fear turning to Project Fact)

Ouch... just in time to miss out on all those Xmas sales...

 

"Whilst Amazon say that the changes will apply from the 1st of January 2021, in reality you might find impacts of the Amazon FBA Brexit bombshell start to impact you earlier. For instance, if you already have stock in Pan-European FBA it is feasible that Amazon will repatriate your stock before the end of the year and certainly are likely to stop sending your stock to Europe at an earlier date. This means that certainly around Christmas, perhaps sooner, your European sales will start to decline."

 

There'll be a lot of businesses going bump pretty quickly.

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