El Cid 220 #4801 Posted September 20, 2022 3 hours ago, L00b said: There has been a material change since the Scottish referendum of 2014, 8 years ago. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes 👍🏻 Possibly, but I would let that change settle down and take affect, so the 10 year rule is valid. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Magilla 510 #4802 Posted September 20, 2022 (edited) 42 minutes ago, West 77 said: The Queen's death deals massive blow to Nicola Sturgeon's Scexit hopes as support plummets https://www.scottishdailyexpress.co.uk/news/politics/queens-death-deals-massive-blow-28019360 Well if it's anything like the Express groups Brexit predictions, that's bad news for the union: Edited September 20, 2022 by Magilla 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
altus 540 #4803 Posted September 20, 2022 6 minutes ago, West 77 said: It isn't an Express groups poll. It's been well reported since the death of Queen Elizabeth II that appetite for any of the UK nations to leave the Union has diminished. Nicola Sturgeon isn't going to look good pushing for another independence referendum next year when the King's Coronation is taking place. That poll lead could be wiped out in a second when the Scots discover how Truss's governments policies will affect the country. Sturgeon wouldn't want to hold a poll during the year of the new king's coronation but there's no particular reason to stop preparing for a poll to be held later - Surgeon's playing a long game here. Also don't forget, the SNP's policy is to retain the monarchy after independence, Charles will still be their king if they do leave. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
HumbleNarrator 286 #4804 Posted September 20, 2022 4 minutes ago, altus said: That poll lead could be wiped out in a second when the Scots discover how Truss's governments policies will affect the country. Sturgeon wouldn't want to hold a poll during the year of the new king's coronation but there's no particular reason to stop preparing for a poll to be held later - Surgeon's playing a long game here. Also don't forget, the SNP's policy is to retain the monarchy after independence, Charles will still be their king if they do leave. Are the Scottish people really going to make such a monumentous decision based on a here-today-gone-tomorrow Tory government in Westminster? if they do they're daft. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
altus 540 #4805 Posted September 20, 2022 11 minutes ago, HumbleNarrator said: Are the Scottish people really going to make such a monumentous decision based on a here-today-gone-tomorrow Tory government in Westminster? if they do they're daft. Not based on a "here-today-gone-tomorrow Tory government", based on a series of Tory governments. Don't forget it was a Tory government that took them out of the EU against their wishes after a previous Tory government had said the only way to remain in the EU is to vote no in the 2014 independence referendum. Support for independence has been slowly growing in Scotland. The death of the queen has caused a downward blip, but that is very unlikely to be anything other than temporary. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Mister M 1,625 #4806 Posted September 20, 2022 (edited) https://news.sky.com/story/liz-truss-admits-uk-us-trade-deal-could-be-years-away-with-no-negotiations-taking-place-12701700 After Boris promised so much in 2017.... Well, I suppose we should be used to it now. Edited September 20, 2022 by Mister M Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
geared 317 #4807 Posted September 20, 2022 After leaving one EU club, we're going to wonder into another. Hilarious. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-62967084 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
geared 317 #4808 Posted September 20, 2022 2 hours ago, Magilla said: Well if it's anything like the Express groups Brexit predictions, that's bad news for the union: The Express got a new Editor in 2018, he was very keen to shift away from the sensationalist nonsense that the paper had been known for. So perhaps you're seeing the difference between the views of the two editors. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
L00b 441 #4809 Posted September 20, 2022 3 hours ago, El Cid said: Possibly, but I would let that change settle down and take affect, so the 10 year rule is valid. Would you now… …so, err, where does that 10 year rule come from? Constitutionally, I mean? 3 hours ago, West 77 said: The Queen's death deals massive blow to Nicola Sturgeon's Scexit hopes as support plummets Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
HumbleNarrator 286 #4810 Posted September 20, 2022 Loob that gif image really made me laugh. 😅 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Mister Gee 823 #4811 Posted September 20, 2022 (edited) 53 minutes ago, geared said: After leaving one EU club, we're going to wonder into another. Hilarious. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-62967084 Sounds like a good idea to establish closer relations with our friends in Europe to look at issues of mutual benefit. Do worry though, it’s a sensible idea so Truss and her band of headbangers will reject it. Edited September 20, 2022 by Mister Gee Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Dromedary 166 #4812 Posted September 20, 2022 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Mister Gee said: Sounds like a good idea to establish closer relations with our friends in Europe to look at issues of mutual benefit. Do worry though, it’s a sensible idea so Truss and her band of headbangers will reject it. Our close friends in Europe? It was suggested by Macron so something is definitely up, maybe it's just another way of promoting his much wanted EU army. This is a bit of a clue: "Critics, within the EU, are wary of what they see as a "vague" French-led project. There's also suspicion that France, a known sceptic of EU expansion, wants to create a "parking lot" for countries who aspire to join the European Union." Edited September 20, 2022 by Dromedary Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...