Consequences Of Brexit [Part 9] Read First Post Before Posting

[El Cid 220]

4 minutes ago, Dromedary said:

Thats where youre wrong in your thinking.

 

Now have a look at that inflation link I gave!

https://www.euronews.com/my-europe/2022/09/08/soaring-energy-prices-how-does-the-uk-compare-with-europe

[Dromedary 166]

8 minutes ago, El Cid said:

https://www.euronews.com/my-europe/2022/09/08/soaring-energy-prices-how-does-the-uk-compare-with-europe

Do you think it fair to compare a single country like the UK with an average of 27 in the EU? For a proper comparison you need to compare each country like for like otherwise it falsifies the figures. Now take away the average and see how it pans out per country.

Edited September 17, 2022 by Dromedary

[El Cid 220]

3 minutes ago, Dromedary said:

Do you think it fair to compare a single country like the UK with an average of 27 in the EU? For a proper comparison you need to compare each country like for like otherwise it falsifies the figures. Now take away the average and see how it pans out per country.

If you are discussing the consequences of Brexit, then it's right to compare with the EU.

I would generally prefer to compare similar countries, the UK and Germany.

[Magilla 510]

1 hour ago, Dromedary said:

UK inflation has now gone down to 9.9% not forgetting that in the EU it also hit 10.1%. But if you now compare it on a EU member/country basis its a completely different matter.

Of the ones that are major western economies though...

Edited September 17, 2022 by Magilla

[Dromedary 166]

3 hours ago, Magilla said:

Of the ones that are major western economies though...

Still does not alter the fact that inflation also hit double figures in the EU as well though, so not just a UK thing!

 

4 hours ago, El Cid said:

If you are discussing the consequences of Brexit, then it's right to compare with the EU.

I would generally prefer to compare similar countries, the UK and Germany.

OK. If you now average out those major EU economies inflation rates (Germany, France, Italy, Spain, Netherlands) it works out at around 9.74% average compared to the UK at 9.9%. Given that then brexit can, at the most, only have accounted for around 0.16%.

Edited September 17, 2022 by Dromedary

[El Cid 220]

2 hours ago, Dromedary said:

 

OK. If you now average out those major EU economies inflation rates (Germany, France, Italy, Spain, Netherlands) it works out at around 9.74% average compared to the UK at 9.9%. Given that then brexit can, at the most, only have accounted for around 0.16%.

Many enjoy debating on SF, but Brexit is the issue which is almost pointless.

Brexiteers will have their own information sources and remainers likewise.

Here is the growth rate compared.

 

https://www.newstatesman.com/chart-of-the-day/2022/06/uk-economy-fallen-behind-eu-since-brexit

[Dromedary 166]

3 hours ago, El Cid said:

Many enjoy debating on SF, but Brexit is the issue which is almost pointless.

Brexiteers will have their own information sources and remainers likewise.

Here is the growth rate compared.

 

https://www.newstatesman.com/chart-of-the-day/2022/06/uk-economy-fallen-behind-eu-since-brexit

On the pointless bit I agree. 👍

 

But again sadly you are comparing the whole of the EU (27 nations) to the whole of the UK (one nation, or maybe 3) which is unfair and also pointless. As said before, compare like with like!  

 

 

 

Edited September 18, 2022 by Dromedary
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[Litotes 63]

How about democratic change now...?

 

https://ukandeu.ac.uk/why-has-brexit-become-less-popular/

[Dromedary 166]

2 hours ago, Litotes said:

How about democratic change now...?

 

https://ukandeu.ac.uk/why-has-brexit-become-less-popular/

No, as there is still no major swing either way. Until the balance is tilted a great deal more there is no reason for any change.

 

https://whatukthinks.org/eu/why-have-some-voters-changed-their-minds-about-brexit/

 

A quote of the last sentence of the above:

 

"In any event, the pattern we have uncovered certainly helps explain why, according to today’s poll, rather more people would prefer to stay out of the EU than backed leaving in 2016 despite the fact that, on balance, voters as a whole so far at least take a relatively negative view of the consequences of Brexit."

 

Give it several years from the leave date of 2022 then maybe the Russian/Ukraine problems will have been settled and inflation under control then let's see how it pans out as I suspect the EU are entering into problematic times ahead.

 

Edited September 19, 2022 by Dromedary

[El Cid 220]

28 minutes ago, Dromedary said:

 

Give it several years from the leave date of 2022 then maybe the Russian/Ukraine problems will have been settled and inflation under control then let's see how it pans out as I suspect the EU are entering into problematic times ahead.

The Brexit and Scottish independence referendums should stand for a minimum of ten years, unless there is a material change.

Brexiteers have been saying for over a decade that the EU's days are numbered. That is very unlikely.

[L00b 441]

11 hours ago, El Cid said:

The Brexit and Scottish independence referendums should stand for a minimum of ten years, unless there is a material change.

There has been a material change since the Scottish referendum of 2014, 8 years ago.

 

Unlike the Brexit referendum, the current result of which cannot be ‘undone’ with a further referendum (or 10) without the EU27’s say-so, that 2014 Scottish referendum outcome can be ‘undone’ without anyone else’s say-so…and, looking at poll results over the last couple of years, it’s coming at England fast.
 

About as fast as, looking at NI politics, a NI border poll referendum.

Because demographics and economics.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/sep/20/no-us-trade-deal-on-the-horizon-admits-truss-as-she-flies-in-for-biden-meeting?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

 

Play stupid games, win stupid prizes 👍🏻

Edited September 20, 2022 by L00b

[RJRB 688]

2 hours ago, West 77 said:

How about just respecting the democratic choice the British electorate made and supporting that choice?

Personally I prefer to continue to argue that some of the British electorate made a wrong decision that will cost our country dear for years to come.

Xenophobia and far right ideologies won the day,and I don’t subscribe to either.