Consequences Of Brexit [Part 9] Read First Post Before Posting

[trastrick 866]

15 hours ago, Magilla said:

"Lee Cohen, a senior fellow of the Bow Group and the Bruges Group, was adviser on Great Britain to the U.S. House of Representatives Foreign Affairs Committee and founded the Congressional United Kingdom Caucus."

 

No **** Sherlock...

 

...there is no more intrusion today than there ever has been.

 

Which this clearly isn't since the policies outlined above are not a partisan issue and are, in fact, an extension of the Senate’s Foreign Relations Committee resolution reaffirming its support for the Good Friday Agreement.

 

The resolution states that any new or amended trade agreements or other bilateral agreements between the US and the UK must take into consideration the Good Friday Agreement.

 

The US isn't buying the UK governments BS re: the N.I.Protocol...

 

...because it's BS!

 

Well, it must be, since Trump did exactly the same:

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2018/07/12/trump-backed-brexit-then-he-used-it-as-leverage-219001/

 

Trump backed Brexit, dishonestly, because it made the UK weaker...

 

...and your memory has failed you once again.

 

Which clearly, given this post, you have singularly failed to do!

Those in favour of economic chaos in Europe, Europeans slaughtering each other (again), WW3 looming, say thank you, BidenWorld. 

 

EU energy crisis, rationing imminent, out of control global inflation, totalitarians on the rise, with Europe financing Putin's War, say thank you, BidenWorld. 

 

The line forms on the Left.

 

Even the Communists couldn't have planned it better.

Didn't happen under Trump.

 

Lol

 

 

[Magilla 510]

7 minutes ago, trastrick said:

Those in favour of economic chaos in Europe, Europeans slaughtering each other (again), WW3 looming, say thank you, BidenWorld. 

Yawn... your ill-informed and completely misleading narrative fell flat.... better luck next time.

[RJRB 688]

1 hour ago, trastrick said:

Those in favour of economic chaos in Europe, Europeans slaughtering each other (again), WW3 looming, say thank you, BidenWorld. 

 

EU energy crisis, rationing imminent, out of control global inflation, totalitarians on the rise, with Europe financing Putin's War, say thank you, BidenWorld. 

 

The line forms on the Left.

 

Even the Communists couldn't have planned it better.

Didn't happen under Trump.

 

Lol

 

 

Perhaps you could spend more time considering what did happen under Trump.

Unification of the far right lunatic fringe.

Division of the rest of society.

Assault on democratic processes and legal procedures

A weekly battery of lies

Celebrity politics at its worst.

Consign him to history and hope that the Republicans can find a leader worthy of the name.

 

 

I forgot the Lol ,but there again it’s no laughing matter

 

Edited June 28, 2022 by RJRB

[L00b 441]

Putin, disaster capitalists and proto fascists, with respective interests aligned, were behind Trump’s election, Brexit, Johnson’s ascendancy, the aborted 06 January coup, and much of the multifarious initiatives dividing populations and electorates for the past few years.

 

Their latest success is LePen’s massive win at the recent French GE. Aided as they were, delicious paradox of paradoxes, by Mélenchon’s hard left 🙄

 

No doubt Leavers have been gloating at that one…yet little do they realise, that this will actually make all that they hold wrong with France’s handling of migrants, far far worse than it is: besides precipitating -inevitably- harder and more nationalist stances at the expense of “Les Anglais” (LePen is a staunch Anglophobe, always has been), the Calais area opposite Dover is now one of LePen’s strongest electoral bastions.

 

Predicting much more gammony froth in months and years to come, sadly.

Edited June 28, 2022 by L00b

[Magilla 510]

1 hour ago, RJRB said:

Perhaps you could spend more time considering what did happen under Trump.

Indeed... but... in the Trump thread

[trastrick 866]

Just now, L00b said:

Putin, disaster capitalists and proto fascists, with respective interests aligned, were behind Trump’s election, Brexit, Johnson’s ascendancy, the aborted 06 January coup, and much of the multifarious initiatives dividing populations and electorates for the past few years.

 

Their latest success is LePen’s massive win at the recent French GE. Aided as they were, delicious paradox of paradoxes, by Mélenchon’s hard left 🙄

 

No doubt Leavers have been gloating at that one…yet little do they realise, that this will actually make all that they hold wrong with France’s handling of migrants, far far worse than it is: besides precipitating -inevitably- harder and more nationalist stances at the expense of “Les Anglais” (LePen is a staunch Anglophobe, always has been), the Calais area opposite Dover is now one of LePen’s strongest electoral bastions.

 

Predicting much more gammony froth in months and years to come, sadly.

BidenWorld, amigo.

 

Get used to it! 

Just now, RJRB said:

Perhaps you could spend more time considering what did happen under Trump.

Unification of the far right lunatic fringe.

Division of the rest of society.

Assault on democratic processes and legal procedures

A weekly battery of lies

Celebrity politics at its worst.

Consign him to history and hope that the Republicans can find a leader worthy of the name.

 

 

I forgot the Lol ,but there again it’s no laughing matter

 

No new Wars, no Russian invasions, no out of control infaltionary economies, cheap energy and petrol, little illegal immigration, human traficking,

 

Trump is now the most popular political leader, along with DiSantis, and every kangaroo court circus the Left throw at him is making his Party a dominant force in the next election.

 

You can only blame the "other guy" for your self created messes, so far. The electorate have tuned the Dems out. They share the same dumper approval ratings (36%) with theirpals in the MSM. (Gallup)

 

The electorate have already "consigned the current "leader" to hisory". Probably the worst ever!

 

Time to face reality! 

 

But most true believers still prefer to stay in safety of their echo chamber bubble, with their like minded peers.

 

Lol

 

 

[RJRB 688]

5 hours ago, trastrick said:

BidenWorld, amigo.

 

Get used to it! 

No new Wars, no Russian invasions, no out of control infaltionary economies, cheap energy and petrol, little illegal immigration, human traficking,

 

Trump is now the most popular political leader, along with DiSantis, and every kangaroo court circus the Left throw at him is making his Party a dominant force in the next election.

 

You can only blame the "other guy" for your self created messes, so far. The electorate have tuned the Dems out. They share the same dumper approval ratings (36%) with theirpals in the MSM. (Gallup)

 

The electorate have already "consigned the current "leader" to hisory". Probably the worst ever!

 

Time to face reality! 

 

But most true believers still prefer to stay in safety of their echo chamber bubble, with their like minded peers.

 

Lol

 

 

My references were to the Trump era which was a comedy show but appealed to the Make America Great Again chorus.

I have no doubt that if I lived in the US I would lean towards the Democrats but would be embarrassed that Joe Biden was the cream of the crop.

Pretty much as those with Conservative leanings in the U.K. have learned that Johnson has not grown into the leader that they hoped for.

I don’t mind Biden being consigned to history in due course but if Trump were to rise again then his incompetence would be even more apparent given the changed world that we now enjoy.

 

Anyway.Back to Brexit.

What a costly con job that is proving to be and all to try to quell the muttering of the far right of the Conservative Party and the loss of votes to the even further right outside of the party.

Where are the leading voices of the Brexit very yester year now.

They handed the job (hot potato)to Lord Frost who’s then quit.

Its an even more difficult job than being the standards adviser to Johnson.

Edited June 28, 2022 by RJRB

[geared 303]

Scottish independence raising it's head adds an interesting dimension to the Brexit argument.

 

The possibility of Scotland leaving the UK to join the EU is quite something. 

[L00b 441]

13 hours ago, geared said:

Scottish independence raising it's head adds an interesting dimension to the Brexit argument.

 

The possibility of Scotland leaving the UK to join the EU is quite something. 

It is a long-predicted consequence, and now growing closer by the day.

 

Sturgeon just had the Scottish AG refer Scotland’s right to run a consultative referendum as a question to the Supreme Court yesterday.

 

It’s a cute move to pre-emptively cut the HoC and the government at the knees, since the SC is likely to opine that Scotland cannot do so, thereby giving the SNP still more electoral ammunition that the Union is not consensual anymore (note: this is its historical/constitutional basis) and that England is denying Scotland a democratic mandate (lest we forget, the SNP has enjoyed its very wide electoral majority on a platform of seeking independence for years and years now: how many more times must the Scottish electorate repeat so?)

 

Naturally, should the SC unexpectedly opine instead, that Scotland can run its consultative referendum, then the SNP is quids in.

 

The usual suspects need not drum up Spain/Catalonia yet again: for reminder, the Spanish constitution expressly forbids secession; the UK ‘constitution’, not so (refer above: Union is consensual, not coercive).

Edited June 29, 2022 by L00b

[Magilla 510]

The UK will be stuck with searing inflation for years because of Brexit:

 

 

 

Brexit’s Legacy Is Hotter UK Inflation Risk for Years Ahead:

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-06-22/brexit-s-legacy-is-hotter-uk-inflation-risk-for-years-to-come

"Brexit is a key reason why investors are still avoiding the UK"

 

 

 

You can be sure Rees-Mogg would be quick to publish assessments of the success of Brexit if even the slightest evidence existed, but instead this week issued a statement that he would not be publishing any Brexit impact assessments...

 

...he knows it's a failure!

Edited June 29, 2022 by Magilla

[trastrick 866]

It may or may not happen.

 

But there are those out there who will use it as a divisive issue and get the folks all riled up and hating each other.

 

And the usual suspects will line up to keep the pot boiling over!

 

A nation divided is a nation easily controlled!

 

They want NOBODY to be happy!

Edited June 29, 2022 by trastrick

[L00b 441]

2 hours ago, West 77 said:

It's not going to happen. 

The longer Johnson & Co. stay in power, the further the UK regulates away from the EU27, the more antagonistic the Westminster-Brussels relationship grows, the more likely it is to happen.

 

Just wait until England makes the NIP Bill into law and then see the EU27 slap a punitive tariff on Scotch whisky overnight. 2 guesses about who the massively-SNP-voting and EU-approving Scottish public will be blaming 😏

 

It’s high time you Leavers learned about building bridges, instead of torching every last one in sight down to cinders without regard to consequences.

Edited June 29, 2022 by L00b