altus 537 #3973 Posted January 24, 2022 13 minutes ago, Dromedary said: Mentioned this before but what happened was not illegal but unlawful. Some people and generally the press prefer illegal as it has more impact. Try and quibble if you want to. The important issue here that the supreme court ruled against them twice for trying to bypass parliament. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Dromedary 166 #3974 Posted January 24, 2022 37 minutes ago, altus said: Try and quibble if you want to. The important issue here that the supreme court ruled against them twice for trying to bypass parliament. Not a quibble but an important distinction when it come to law and the supreme court are well aware of that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
altus 537 #3975 Posted January 24, 2022 9 minutes ago, Dromedary said: Not a quibble but an important distinction when it come to law and the supreme court are well aware of that. The more important point is the fact that the supreme court are well aware that Tory governments twice tried to bypass the will of parliament and so ruled against them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
L00b 441 #3976 Posted January 24, 2022 (edited) The Conservative Gover is all about important distinctions when it comes to law. And a fat lot of good that does for Brexit and British businesses 😏 Edited January 24, 2022 by L00b Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
altus 537 #3977 Posted January 24, 2022 24 minutes ago, West 77 said: Nonsense. The truth is the democratic electorate ruled against the rogue parliament and supreme court by giving Boris an eighty seat majority which enabled Brexit to get done and prevented the electorate from being cheated out of their democratic choice to leave the EU. So you think the supreme court is rogue now too. But then you've repeatedly demonstrated you never were very keen on people abiding by UK laws you don't agree with. Johnson hasn't got brexit done yet - and won't have until he's sorted out the NI/RoI trade issues. His signing up to a deal that he knew wouldn't work is having long term impacts Welsh ports had 30% less traffic due to Brexit - shipping chief Quote Holyhead and Fishguard ports saw a 30% drop in traffic in 2021, according to its operator Stena Line. Ian Davies, boss of Stena's UK ports, said it was down to the new post-Brexit trading relationship with the European Union rather than the pandemic. ... Asked if it was possible to decouple the pandemic hit from a change in post-Brexit trading patterns, Mr Davies said: "I think now we're probably in a position to say yes, this is really the effect post-Brexit of where we are and slight changes in the way that people are moving freight. "If we look at the Irish Sea in its entirety, the freight volumes are roughly the same. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Dromedary 166 #3978 Posted January 24, 2022 1 hour ago, L00b said: The Conservative Gover is all about important distinctions when it comes to law. And a fat lot of good that does for Brexit and British businesses 😏 When was that article published as I cant read it as its paywalled? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
altus 537 #3979 Posted January 24, 2022 3 minutes ago, West 77 said: Yawn You do realise that we've all noticed you just reply with "Yawn" when you know another poster is right and don't have an answer to them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Dromedary 166 #3980 Posted January 24, 2022 (edited) 14 minutes ago, altus said: So you think the supreme court is rogue now too. But then you've repeatedly demonstrated you never were very keen on people abiding by UK laws you don't agree with. Johnson hasn't got brexit done yet - and won't have until he's sorted out the NI/RoI trade issues. His signing up to a deal that he knew wouldn't work is having long term impacts Welsh ports had 30% less traffic due to Brexit - shipping chief Ian Davies also said this in that link. "But he was optimistic about the future, saying he thought "things will improve". Edited January 24, 2022 by Dromedary Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
The Joker 10 #3981 Posted January 24, 2022 Just now, Dromedary said: He also said this: "But he was optimistic about the future, saying he thought "things will improve". Are we at the point where we hold hands and sing Kum Ba Yah, or do we have further to fall yet ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Dromedary 166 #3982 Posted January 24, 2022 Just now, The Joker said: Are we at the point where we hold hands and sing Kum Ba Yah, or do we have further to fall yet ? No but please feel free to sing what you want. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
altus 537 #3983 Posted January 24, 2022 4 minutes ago, Dromedary said: He also said this: "But he was optimistic about the future, saying he thought "things will improve". The report also contains "Dublin Port's boss said this week Brexit spelled the end of the British land-bridge transit route." Cargo will flow through Dublin whichever route it takes so Dublin Port's boss doesn't need to be optimistic about how much of it passes through Wales. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Magilla 510 #3984 Posted January 24, 2022 On 06/01/2022 at 18:08, sadbrewer said: Not everyone in the industry agrees with him though... Barry Young, Managing Director, Brixham Trawler Agents said: “2021 saw a record year for the world famous Brixham Fish Market. Despite the pandemic and rumours around the impact of Brexit we have seen both our sales to domestic markets and exports to the EU increase nicely. With over £43.5m worth of sales taking place in 2021, we are expecting 2022 to be an even bigger year. The combination of life outside of the EU and the pandemic has ensured that we have diversified our markets and looked to new opportunities. From increasing our domestic market sales to being well prepared for any bureaucratic changes, Brixham Fish market has shown that there is a positive story to tell and it is well reflected in these record sales numbers. Turns out that Brixham Trawler Agents was growing at a similar rate while the UK was an EU member, attributed to "many years of stock conservation and gear development, which we are now starting to see the benefits of" https://fishingnews.co.uk/news/port-record-smashed-at-brixham/ Barry's statement is the continuation of a trend that started long before Brexit This ‘Brexit success story’ is at best a story about Brexit not having reversed the upwards trend in fish sales, not that Brexit is in anyway causing or helping that trend. The wider Devon community though, not so rosy a view: https://www.devonlive.com/news/devon-news/betrayed-brexit-town-slams-door-6516157 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...