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2 minutes ago, sibon said:

Careful now. 
 

That might be all that you get for Christmas Dinner.

Actually, I beg to differ.  My exports to the EU have increased significantly over the last 18 months - I look forward to a bountiful Christmas dinner, maybe even a pudding.

 

Inter-company movements are no more complicated than they were pre-Brexit, requiring no more paperwork than before.  Since the broad roll-out of IOSS in July, retail transactions (which were for a few months admittedly a little more time-consuming) are now no more difficult than they were pre-Brexit.

 

Trade is happening, the UK is still on track to be the fastest growing economy of 2022, and the pound is strong.

 

We've been short of HGV drivers for years, it's only now that the press are making that issue seem like a crisis. 

 

Better still, I have a navy blue passport.

 

Brexit doom prophesies were no more substantial than the Millennium Bug.

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13 minutes ago, Caswall said:

Actually, I beg to differ.  My exports to the EU have increased significantly over the last 18 months - I look forward to a bountiful Christmas dinner, maybe even a pudding.

 

Inter-company movements are no more complicated than they were pre-Brexit, requiring no more paperwork than before.  Since the broad roll-out of IOSS in July, retail transactions (which were for a few months admittedly a little more time-consuming) are now no more difficult than they were pre-Brexit.

 

Trade is happening, the UK is still on track to be the fastest growing economy of 2022, and the pound is strong.

 

We've been short of HGV drivers for years, it's only now that the press are making that issue seem like a crisis. 

 

Better still, I have a navy blue passport.

 

Brexit doom prophesies were no more substantial than the Millennium Bug.

Another Brexit consequence denier. I could learn your job in a month tops.

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1 hour ago, Caswall said:

Actually, I beg to differ.  My exports to the EU have increased significantly over the last 18 months - I look forward to a bountiful Christmas dinner, maybe even a pudding.

 

Inter-company movements are no more complicated than they were pre-Brexit, requiring no more paperwork than before.  Since the broad roll-out of IOSS in July, retail transactions (which were for a few months admittedly a little more time-consuming) are now no more difficult than they were pre-Brexit.

 

Trade is happening, the UK is still on track to be the fastest growing economy of 2022, and the pound is strong.

 

We've been short of HGV drivers for years, it's only now that the press are making that issue seem like a crisis. 

 

Better still, I have a navy blue passport.

 

Brexit doom prophesies were no more substantial than the Millennium Bug.

Nonsense, there's loads more paperwork. Sending stuff to Dublin was no harder than sending stuff to Dudley. Loads more to do now, restricted services with couriers as well.

 

Link for the 2022 growth would be nice and your blue passport is made in France.

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15 hours ago, West 77 said:

I guess having a GSOH helps especially with you being French.

It certainly helps to keep a conversation going with you. And a bonus is that we all get to see your prejudices loud and clear, in case there was any doubt.

 

13 hours ago, RJRB said:

So now butchers can get a 6 month visa to work in the U.K.

As we always knew,we need workers across the board and it will be easier for semi skilled workers to come here than the higher skilled who must satisfy a points system.

Trouble is there will be few takers having already been told that they are not welcome when we got Brexit done.

Sorry RJRB, but GB will not be getting EU27 butchers, anymore than it will get EU27 drivers, nurses, vets, (…)

 

Very many workers, bar probably the seasonal type, have families they want to be near/with. 

 

Which worker is going to bother shifting their family to GB for 3 or 6 months?
 

To take up jobs that pay no better than equivalent jobs in the EU with zero strings attached?

 

In a country now long and widely painted on the Continent, as run by xenophobic clowns who enjoy popular support? (PolPot Patel’s project of an extra-judicial amnesty for HMBF staff accidentally killing boat people during pushbacks, went down really well on this side of the Channel).

 

GB has been written off from that perspective, I’m afraid. Which explains the 27 HGV applications (since confirmed as translated into a grand total of 20 actual drivers).

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@L00b As I said,there will be few takers but thanks for the lengthier reasons

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11 hours ago, Caswall said:

Brexit doom prophesies were no more substantial than the Millennium Bug.

If you're deliberately not looking, otherwise... not so much :?

 

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1 hour ago, L00b said:

GB has been written off from that perspective, I’m afraid. Which explains the 27 HGV applications (since confirmed as translated into a grand total of 20 actual drivers).

Some of the media report the figure of 127

When the economy has recovered in 2023/24 and wages are higher, perhaps all of this will be forgotton? The Tories really have a powerfull media, if they can keep/get them on their side, it may work.

In the meantime, the IMF are forcasting the UK to be the bottom of the G7 and 3% being in growth.

 

https://www.ft.com/content/af12d4aa-0a3e-4758-83c4-0c4070b504fb

 

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11 hours ago, Caswall said:

Actually, I beg to differ.  My exports to the EU have increased significantly over the last 18 months - I look forward to a bountiful Christmas dinner, maybe even a pudding.

 

Inter-company movements are no more complicated than they were pre-Brexit, requiring no more paperwork than before.  Since the broad roll-out of IOSS in July, retail transactions (which were for a few months admittedly a little more time-consuming) are now no more difficult than they were pre-Brexit.

 

Trade is happening, the UK is still on track to be the fastest growing economy of 2022, and the pound is strong.

 

We've been short of HGV drivers for years, it's only now that the press are making that issue seem like a crisis. 

 

Better still, I have a navy blue passport.

 

Brexit doom prophesies were no more substantial than the Millennium Bug.

Exactly correct.

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33 minutes ago, El Cid said:

Some of the media report the figure of 127

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2021/oct/13/just-20-uk-visas-issued-to-foreign-lorry-drivers-government-admits (yesterday’s Guardian)

 

33 minutes ago, El Cid said:

When the economy has recovered in 2023/24 and wages are higher, perhaps all of this will be forgotton? The Tories really have a powerfull media, if they can keep/get them on their side, it may work.

In the meantime, the IMF are forcasting the UK to be the bottom of the G7 and 3% being in growth.

I doubt that it will be forgotten as early as 2023/24, because Brexit is making much of the Covid-induced supply shock in the UK to be a permanent feature.
 

Think of it this way: so the 127, 27, 20 or even the full contingent of 5000 HGV drivers come over next week, work and then get kicked out on Xmas Eve or New Years Eve…so what happens to GB logistics on 1st January?

 

And what about the balance of 40.000, 60.000 or 95.000 HGV drivers allegedly missing in GB in the meantime, and from then on?

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11 hours ago, Caswall said:

Brexit doom prophesies were no more substantial than the Millennium Bug.

The millennium bug was very real. A lot of people spent the previous two years checking and updating computer systems and made sure it had no impact. Unlike with brexit, we were well prepared for it.

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45 minutes ago, altus said:

The millennium bug was very real. A lot of people spent the previous two years checking and updating computer systems and made sure it had no impact. Unlike with brexit, we were well prepared for it.

Indeed, I earnt a fortune in 1999 on overtime :D

Still, in some peoples minds, if they can't see it, it didn't happen.

And in the case of Brexit, even when they can see it, it didn't happen 😂

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4 hours ago, West 77 said:

Exactly correct.

Exactly not correct. The consequences of the Millenium bug were mitigated by the effort which went into preventing the predicted issues.

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