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Let me make this perfectly clear - any personal attacks will get you a suspension. The moderating team is not going to continually issue warnings. If you cannot remain civil and post within forum rules then do not bother to contribute.

 

In addition to remoaner we are also not going to allow the use of libdums or liebore - if you cannot behave like adults and post without recourse to these childish insults then please refrain from posting. If you have a problem with this then you all know where the helpdesk is. 

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3 hours ago, Tony said:

And I know that each of you had to check because I've run that experiment face-to-face a hundred times or more and not one single person could answer without checking. You can't even have an honest debate on these things. 

There never was one.

 

Brexiteers always followed a belief (sunlit uplands, to simplify).

 

Remainers always followed facts (status quo prior to Brexit, to simplify).
 

It was, and in many respects still is, a dialogue of deafmutes.

 

But I note that only one side is getting continually surprised (and/or outraged, and/or etc.) about the factual consequences of the thing and continually seeking excuses (and/or scapegoats, and/or etc.)

 

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4 hours ago, Tony said:

And I know that each of you had to check because I've run that experiment face-to-face a hundred times or more and not one single person could answer without checking. You can't even have an honest debate on these things. 

Multiple people replied to your posts asking about democratic deficit buy you studiously ignored them because the democratic deficits they pointed out weren't the one were thinking of. As for knowing who our MEPs were, the Yorkshire and Humber region had UKIP MEPs. How many UKIP MPs did the Yorkshire and Humber region ever have? Which out of the EU and UK parliaments do you think had the bigger democratic deficit?

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1 hour ago, L00b said:

There never was one.

 

Brexiteers always followed a belief (sunlit uplands, to simplify).

 

Remainers always followed facts (status quo prior to Brexit, to simplify).
 

It was, and in many respects still is, a dialogue of deafmutes.

 

But I note that only one side is getting continually surprised (and/or outraged, and/or etc.) about the factual consequences of the thing and continually seeking excuses (and/or scapegoats, and/or etc.)

 

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Absolute nonsense.

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5 minutes ago, West 77 said:

Absolute nonsense.

Neurone overload?
 

I can do simpler still, just ask 😘

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15 hours ago, West 77 said:

Absolute nonsense.

Fingers in ears going nerr nerr not listening

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On 08/10/2021 at 08:59, L00b said:

In the hope of finally making some point about some ‘democratic deficit’, no doubt.

 

Which a little ironical, considering Tony’s insistence on moving on, now that Brexit is ‘done’.

 

Meanwhile, back to consequences. Investors started dumping GB gilts this week.

Ooh, we can @ people now, that is a nice feature, well done SF! 

 

So, @Tony, how about it. We were having a nice start to a well-balanced debate. I challenged a Brexit supporter (any) to name the many advantages of Brexit and you declared that democratic deficit was an excellent reason for Brexit. Just a gentle reminder (again, I am sure you recall the previous one) for you to explain about this democratic deficit point. Just saying people can't name their MEP doesn't really cut it mate, I don't see that as a democratic deficit, because if it is, local councils might as well pack up and become autocratic. 

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6 hours ago, RJRB said:

Her you are Tony.

Get your teeth into this article.

https://fabians.org.uk/the-democratic-deficit/

Quote from the article:   "Given that EU legislation, one way or another, affects virtually every area of law and policy,"

 

If there is a democratic deficit as posited then the Labour Party (or other) at the next election could campaign on the issue, or, if in power could amend the legislation, at least without having to consult Brussels.

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10 hours ago, melthebell said:

Fingers in ears going nerr nerr not listening

Exactly correct, no sane person listens to anything the anti Brexit / antic democratic / anti British mob say about anything. 

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13 minutes ago, West 77 said:

Exactly correct, no sane person listens to anything the anti Brexit / antic democratic / anti British mob say about anything. 

He played for Luton Town in the early 80’s.

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Right wing journalist and GB News presenter Isabel Oakeshott, the wife of the multimillionaire leader of the Brexit Party, is exactly the sort of person this country needs to tell us what ‘Christmas is all about’ amid goods shortages. 

GB News host says we should think what ‘Christmas is all about’ amid goods shortages – and people are shocked | indy100

 

Love the responses to her. Very fitting.

 

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4 minutes ago, Mister M said:

Right wing journalist and GB News presenter Isabel Oakeshott, the wife of the multimillionaire leader of the Brexit Party, is exactly the sort of person this country needs to tell us what ‘Christmas is all about’ amid goods shortages. 

GB News host says we should think what ‘Christmas is all about’ amid goods shortages – and people are shocked | indy100

Is she?

 

Nigel Farages wife, she looks way too nice and too young.

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