Mr Bloke   1,445 #3649 Posted October 18, 2021 15 minutes ago, Bargepole23 said: Once in a while? You must be one of the more regular posters on this forum.  Much like arguments against Brexit on here have no impact in the real world, the ranters against bike lanes and cyclists delaying drivers have no impact outside this bubble. Its a forum for discussion and putting across opinions, nobody is expecting the world to change because of it. Hmmm... Post numbers would prove that not to be the case... ... so maybe you just happen to notice my valuable contributions more than the tedious efforts of the more prolific posters?  And thanks for your concern but... ... I can assure you that my digestive tract is fully functioning! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
RollingJ   2,034 #3650 Posted October 18, 2021 @Mr Bloke- thanks for a bit of sanity in an insane bubble. 👋🤣 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
melthebell   863 #3651 Posted October 18, 2021 Seems theres a lot of dummies flying around this thread lately Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
whiteowl   54 #3652 Posted October 18, 2021 1 hour ago, West 77 said: I'm not demanding anything or whinging about anything. The truth is I enjoy reading and find amusement at the ramblings of the anti democratic / anti democratic mob who post here daily because it makes the victory of leaving the EU even more sweeter. I'm just looking at the bigger picture for the Sheffield Forum and don't think the comedic scribbles of the anti Brexit / anti democratic and anti Tory mob are likely to encourage normal looker ons who read the discussions to join the forum and contribute.   And how long are you going to continue whinging about a democratic choice your own people made?  Have you any plans to have "still suffering the consequences of Brexit" on your headstone? Well, you guys whinged for 41 years after the democratic choice of the 1975 referendum 😂😂 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
RJRB   688 #3653 Posted October 18, 2021 31 minutes ago, West 77 said: Absolute nonsense. It was the Maastricht Treaty which was signed in 1992 that led to the inevitable of the UK leaving the EU. There was no whinging at all about the 1975 referendum result. If the EU the was same organisation in 2016 as the EEC was in 1975 then there would have been not much desire for the UK to leave the trading bloc.   Another embarrassing contribution from an anti Brexit / anti democracy poster. To be honest I don’t think that there was much whingeing from the general population after the Maastricht Treaty.We signed up and enjoyed the benefits,but perhaps it did stir up some in the ruling classes who resented perceived higher powers. The general rabble rousing started with Farage who concocted an argument based on illegal immigrants and generally confused enough of the masses to think this was the meaning of freedom of movements. Well we have achieved the aim of hindering freedom of movement,but not the problem of illegal immigrants. Brilliant  Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Caswall   7 #3654 Posted October 18, 2021 31 minutes ago, West 77 said: Absolute nonsense. It was the Maastricht Treaty which was signed in 1992 that led to the inevitable of the UK leaving the EU. There was no whinging at all about the 1975 referendum result. If the EU the was same organisation in 2016 as the EEC was in 1975 then there would have been not much desire for the UK to leave the trading bloc.   Another embarrassing contribution from an anti Brexit / anti democracy poster. Exactly. We originally joined a trading club comprised of similarly-industrialised and developed nations - a very sensible and mostly beneficial arrangement.  That sadly evolved into a sprawling mess of disparate nations, trying to exist under one set of rules which did not and could not suit all, and administered by an unaccountable bunch of control freaks who do not even have the common sense to understand that relocating your entire headquarters every few weeks is insane. Add to that the EU was operating like a socialist commune writ large, expecting the UK and Germany to fund dragging under-developed nations into the first world. Totally unacceptable.  We would otherwise still be in the Common Market. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
L00b   441 #3655 Posted October 19, 2021 19 hours ago, melthebell said: Seems theres a lot of dummies flying around this thread lately Looking at recent posts, there’s also history rewriting on an industrial scale 😂 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Magilla   510 #3656 Posted October 19, 2021 (edited) 18 hours ago, Caswall said: Exactly. We originally joined a trading club comprised of similarly-industrialised and developed nations - a very sensible and mostly beneficial arrangement. In the full knowledge that it was going to become a USofE, which was a central plank of the "no" campaign at the time.  Quote That sadly evolved into a sprawling mess of disparate nations, trying to exist under one set of rules which did not and could not suit all The same applies to members of any Common Market, which by definition has a common set of rules.  Quote and administered by an unaccountable bunch of control freaks who do not even have the common sense to understand that relocating your entire headquarters every few weeks is insane. They're not "unaccountable", but I agree on the relocation thing... however, it still only represents a tiny fraction of the concessions the UK secured in it's favour.  Quote Add to that the EU was operating like a socialist commune writ large, expecting the UK and Germany to fund dragging under-developed nations into the first world. Totally unacceptable. The UK was one of those economically under-developed nations that had to be dragged into the first world when we joined  That "dragging" helps the UK economically, more people to buy our goods and services.  Quote We would otherwise still be in the Common Market. Which would, on balance, have many of the same issues. Edited October 19, 2021 by Magilla Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
RJRB   688 #3657 Posted October 19, 2021 And it still makes sense to stay in for economic and trading reasons. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Magilla   510 #3658 Posted October 19, 2021 1 hour ago, West 77 said: It looks like things are going from bad to worse for the EU. Now the Polish Prime Minister is accusing the EU of blackmail over the payment of covid 19 related funds.  We should all be lighting candles for the Polish people again. Indeed, they overwhelmingly approve of the EU, and value their EU membership.  1 hour ago, West 77 said: Thank goodness the UK are out and are an independent sovereign nation again.   POLEXIT https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-58955375 Polish Prime Minister Mateusz Morawiecki has repeatedly insisted the country has no plans to leave the union. "We should not be spreading lies about Polish Polexit"  ... but don't let the Polish PM stop you trying Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
retep   68 #3659 Posted October 19, 2021 14 minutes ago, Magilla said: Indeed, they overwhelmingly approve of the EU, and value their EU membership.  https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-58955375 Polish Prime Minister Mateusz Morawiecki has repeatedly insisted the country has no plans to leave the union. "We should not be spreading lies about Polish Polexit"  ... but don't let the Polish PM stop you trying He also said, "Poland will not be intimidated" https://www.euronews.com/2021/10/19/watch-live-meps-debate-eu-poland-legal-crisis Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
altus   540 #3660 Posted October 19, 2021 3 minutes ago, West 77 said: All very amusing. No UK Prime Minister had any plans to leave the EU before the 2016 EU referendum. UK bookies always had the UK as comfortable favourites to stay in the EU.  POLEXIT  ITALEXIT  HUEXIT  FREXIT You forgot GREXIT.  It's notable that none of them have shown any sign of actually happening or even being put to a vote. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...