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Vaati

Let me make this perfectly clear - any personal attacks will get you a suspension. The moderating team is not going to continually issue warnings. If you cannot remain civil and post within forum rules then do not bother to contribute.

 

In addition to remoaner we are also not going to allow the use of libdums or liebore - if you cannot behave like adults and post without recourse to these childish insults then please refrain from posting. If you have a problem with this then you all know where the helpdesk is. 

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28 minutes ago, West 77 said:

Wetherspoons required more staff just like most busy pubs will have needed more staff because they had to operate a table service due to covid-19 rules which has nothing to do with Brexit.  Now that nearly normal service at the bar has resumed the anonymous complainer might not suffer such a long wait on a busy hot bank holiday for their drinks.  Like every large chain Wetherspoons employ both good hard working staff and some not so  good hard working staff. I've experienced both quick service during covid restrictions and sometimes not so quick service when staff have been more interesting in talking to each other rather than looking for customers ready to order  drinks who haven't used the app such as myself. 

Tim Martin argued for more immigration not temporary workers for a few months until we unlock a bit more and no longer have to rely on table service.

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27 minutes ago, altus said:

Tim Martin argued for more immigration not temporary workers for a few months until we unlock a bit more and no longer have to rely on table service.

Tom Martin has never been anti immigration. I believe he would like to see an Australian type of immigration policy for the UK.  My point is it's ludicrous to blame Brexit for slow service in a busy pub on a hot bank holiday when covid-19 restrictions were in force including table service only.

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30 minutes ago, West 77 said:

Tom Martin has never been anti immigration. I believe he would like to see an Australian type of immigration policy for the UK.

I never claimed Martin didn't want immigration. The point is Martin wants immigration to help his industry because of a shortage of staff caused by Brexit. Presumably because otherwise he'll have to pay people more to get them to work for him rather than other companies.

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34 minutes ago, altus said:

I never claimed Martin didn't want immigration. The point is Martin wants immigration to help his industry because of a shortage of staff caused by Brexit. Presumably because otherwise he'll have to pay people more to get them to work for him rather than other companies.

Tim Martin wants an immigration points system similar to Australia because it gives priority to those seeking jobs in sectors where there is a shortage  of workers needed to do the jobs.  When we were in the EU any EU citizen was allowed to come to the UK looking for any work as well as those who weren't really looking for work.   We ended up with too many undesirable Eastern Europeans here who are more interested in criminal activity rather than doing a honest day's work thanks to Tony Blair's Labour government not using the UK veto when it should have been used.

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3 minutes ago, West 77 said:

Tim Martin wants an immigration points system similar to Australia because it gives priority to those seeking jobs in sectors where there is a shortage  of workers needed to do the jobs.

To address a shortage of workers caused by Brexit. Obviously Tim Martin thinks Boris's government have got the UK immigration strategy wrong.

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When we were in the EU any EU citizen was allowed to come to the UK looking for any work as well as those who weren't really looking for work.   We ended up with too many undesirable Eastern Europeans here who are more interested in criminal activity rather than doing a honest day's work thanks to Tony Blair's Labour government not using the UK veto when it should have been used.

At least you're finally accepting that that was because of the UK, not the EU. If you try a bit harder you might even accept that the following Tory led government failed to take the opportunity to change the rules.

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6 minutes ago, altus said:

To address a shortage of workers caused by Brexit. Obviously Tim Martin thinks Boris's government have got the UK immigration strategy wrong.

At least you're finally accepting that that was because of the UK, not the EU. If you try a bit harder you might even accept that the following Tory led government failed to take the opportunity to change the rules.

I've never not accepted that both past Tory and Labour governments are to blame for not using the UK veto when they should have. If John Major had vetoed the Maastricht Treaty then the EU may not have turned into the monster it is today. Both the Labour Party and the Tory party are guilty of being too pro EU.  Even during the EU referendum campaign the Tory Prime Minister was pro EU. The truth is the majority of MPs before the EU referendum and for several  years after the EU referendum were pro EU which didn't mirror the views of the electorate.

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1 hour ago, West 77 said:

I've never not accepted that both past Tory and Labour governments are to blame

Do you see a trend for the future there? There was talk about more immigration, not less.

Record numbers of boat people coming here, so we have more undesireables but fewer desireable workers.

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20 minutes ago, El Cid said:

Do you see a trend for the future there? There was talk about more immigration, not less.

Record numbers of boat people coming here, so we have more undesireables but fewer desireable workers.

Record numbers of economic migrant boat people isn't a consequence of Brexit. Now were't not in the EU this government and future governments should be able to ensure we have less undesirables coming from foreign lands and not more undesirables coming from foreign lands.  An Australian style immigration policy should ensure we have the correct number or desirable workers coming from foreign lands. 

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2 hours ago, West 77 said:

I believe he would like to see an Australian type of immigration policy for the UK.  

FINALLY we agree  on something, now, where can we deport Katie Hopkins to? lol

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38 minutes ago, melthebell said:

FINALLY we agree  on something, now, where can we deport Katie Hopkins to? lol

We tried the traditional place but they sent her back. :wink:

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