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11 hours ago, West 77 said:

Brexiteers have never needed to be let off the hook for staying firm and ensuring Britain left the EU. The negative global economic impact of the coronavirus does pale into insignificance any temporary economic downfall which might or might not  happen to the British economy because of Brexit. If I was  a remain voter who had complained about the referendum result I would be feeling really embarrassed now and not taking cheap shots at Brexiteers.  The global economic crisis has been caused by the coronavirus which was created in China. I pray that after the coronavirus is under control that China is not let off the hook by the rest of the World for creating the coronavirus and that is not just for economic reasons.

 

I do not regard insisting Brexiteers stick to their promises as a "cheap shot". They said, if you remember, "we buy more from the EU than they buy from us so they'll give us more or less everything we want", in fact we'll be able to give the NHS another £350 million a week. Or, to put it a different way, we will get a "a cake and eat it Brexit".

 

*  and, BTW, Turkey are jinging the EU

Let me remind you :

 

Leave-NHS-%C2%A3350-million-a-week-615W.

 

Turkey-is-joining-the-EU-500W.jpg

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12 hours ago, Justin Smith said:

I do not regard insisting Brexiteers stick to their promises as a "cheap shot". They said, if you remember, "we buy more from the EU than they buy from us so they'll give us more or less everything we want", in fact we'll be able to give the NHS another £350 million a week. Or, to put it a different way, we will get a "a cake and eat it Brexit".

 

*  and, BTW, Turkey are jinging the EU

Let me remind you :

 

Leave-NHS-%C2%A3350-million-a-week-615W.

 

Turkey-is-joining-the-EU-500W.jpg

You're just recycling old news that has been argued to death about. The nation had a chance to stop Brexit on 12th December last year but decided to give the party that pledged to get Brexit done a big majority.  I don't need reminding of anything but you seem to need reminding that we have now officially left the EU.  As I previously stated the economic crisis brought about because of the coronavirus pales all the Brexit arguments into insignificance . I'm looking forward to better days next year when the transitional period will be over with new trading arrangements agreed and more importantly when our nation will be back to near normal as it can ever be again after the coronavirus is under control.

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51 minutes ago, West 77 said:

You're just recycling old news that has been argued to death about. The nation had a chance to stop Brexit on 12th December last year but decided to give the party that pledged to get Brexit done a big majority.  I don't need reminding of anything but you seem to need reminding that we have now officially left the EU.  As I previously stated the economic crisis brought about because of the coronavirus pales all the Brexit arguments into insignificance . I'm looking forward to better days next year when the transitional period will be over with new trading arrangements agreed and more importantly when our nation will be back to near normal as it can ever be again after the coronavirus is under control.

and we are under the thumb of the US :rolleyes:

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26 minutes ago, melthebell said:

and we are under the thumb of the US :rolleyes:

We are clearly not otherwise Huawei would be playing no part to supply the 5G network.  

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2 minutes ago, West 77 said:

We are clearly not otherwise Huawei would be playing no part to supply the 5G network.  

We haven't got a US trade deal yet, that can all change

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44 minutes ago, melthebell said:

We haven't got a US trade deal yet, that can all change

Thank you for clearing that up. What you meant to say is that we are not under the thumb of the US yet, but that might change in the future. In other words you are only speculating or dare I say scaremongering. 

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5 hours ago, West 77 said:

You're just recycling old news that has been argued to death about. The nation had a chance to stop Brexit on 12th December last year but decided to give the party that pledged to get Brexit done a big majority.  I don't need reminding of anything but you seem to need reminding that we have now officially left the EU.  As I previously stated the economic crisis brought about because of the coronavirus pales all the Brexit arguments into insignificance . I'm looking forward to better days next year when the transitional period will be over with new trading arrangements agreed and more importantly when our nation will be back to near normal as it can ever be again after the coronavirus is under control.

Errr, no. I'm reminding everyone how Leave (narrowly) won the referendum. It is not "old news", it is promises and predictions that voters will expect to come to pass.

And as for a big majority for "get Brexit done", pro Leave parties got a smaller percentage of the vote than pro Remain parties (or at least those committed to giving the country a chance to change its mind), and that was with the main opposition party being essentially unelectable anyway. So no, I don't accept your simplistic and biased interpretation of the GE result.

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21 hours ago, Justin Smith said:

Errr, no. I'm reminding everyone how Leave (narrowly) won the referendum. It is not "old news", it is promises and predictions that voters will expect to come to pass.

And as for a big majority for "get Brexit done", pro Leave parties got a smaller percentage of the vote than pro Remain parties (or at least those committed to giving the country a chance to change its mind), and that was with the main opposition party being essentially unelectable anyway. So no, I don't accept your simplistic and biased interpretation of the GE result.

 I'll remind you that during the general election campaign Jo Swinson declared herself as a candidate for Prime Minister with a manifesto to revoke article 50, which would have reversed the referendum result, if she had been victorious. It was simplistic for which way to vote,  for anyone who still wanted Britain to remain in the EU.  Any general election result other than a Conservative majority would have stopped Brexit. The Conservative party would not have won a majority in the December general election, if the electorate wanted the referendum result to be overturned. It really is that simplistic.

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On 12/04/2020 at 11:27, melthebell said:

and we are under the thumb of the US :rolleyes:

Europe and Britain have been under the thumb of the US ever since the "European recovery plan" or "Marshall plan" after WW2. 

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23 hours ago, Justin Smith said:

Errr, no. I'm reminding everyone how Leave (narrowly) won the referendum. It is not "old news", it is promises and predictions that voters will expect to come to pass.

And as for a big majority for "get Brexit done", pro Leave parties got a smaller percentage of the vote than pro Remain parties (or at least those committed to giving the country a chance to change its mind), and that was with the main opposition party being essentially unelectable anyway. So no, I don't accept your simplistic and biased interpretation of the GE result.

So you're finally acknowledging that Leave did win then?   

 

It reminds me of one of the daily COVID-19 briefings last week, when a journalist was quizzing the Chancellor about delaying Brexit negotiations, when he asked the Chancellor a question along the lines of, (& paraphrasing here), "Do you believe because of the current COVID-19 issues that the UK should delay leaving the EU?" 

 

Chancellor's reply, "No & the UK left the EU on 31st January." Priceless. 

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It’s a funny old world.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/15/romanian-fruit-pickers-flown-uk-crisis-farming-sector-coronavirus?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

 

Saying that it’s not funny.  It's normal and has been for many years for Foreign born workers to come into this country and prop up the farming industry. Backbreaking work for low pay in poor conditions which or population doesn't want to do.

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51 minutes ago, Mister Gee said:

It’s a funny old world.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/15/romanian-fruit-pickers-flown-uk-crisis-farming-sector-coronavirus?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

 

Saying that it’s not funny.  It's normal and has been for many years for Foreign born workers to come into this country and prop up the farming industry. Backbreaking work for low pay in poor conditions which or population doesn't want to do.

Funny, I thought all the Brexiteers were champing at the bit to get the jobs "wot them foreeners took of us"

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