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17 hours ago, Magilla said:

They're not necessarily, it's not all elders: 

https://blogs.lse.ac.uk/brexit/2019/04/05/britains-wartime-generation-are-almost-as-pro-eu-as-millennials/

 

The ones with actual experience of what division brings weren't voting for Brexit.

Opinion polls?  How wrong they were!

 

The majority voted for BREXIT.

 

Then they voted for Boris to implement it.

 

Voters don't count anymore?

 

It is what it is, for better, or worse.

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1 hour ago, trastrick said:

Opinion polls?  How wrong they were!

...about those that fought against "German hegemony" in WW2?

 

Nope :rolleyes:

 

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The majority voted for BREXIT.

 

Then they voted for Boris to implement it.

 

Voters don't count anymore?

You were talking about old people that fought against German hegemony.... those voters didn't...

 

...those that were still alive went out of their way to highlight the stupidity of it :?

 

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It is what it is, for better, or worse.

Worse... clearly!

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22 hours ago, trastrick said:

Thanks for the correction.

It should have said:

 

"Somebody posted here that the Brexit voters were mostly older folk"..

"Should our elders be so easily dismissed?".

Why would older people be more likely to vote for Brexit? Maybe they use a different form of media, maybe their social circle does not include non-whites or maybe because they are wealthier?

Not dismissing them at all.

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26 minutes ago, El Cid said:

Why would older people be more likely to vote for Brexit? Maybe they use a different form of media, maybe their social circle does not include non-whites or maybe because they are wealthier?

Not dismissing them at all.

Because older people tend to have more respect and pride for their own country.

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4 minutes ago, West 77 said:

Because older people tend to have more respect and pride for their own country.

Than the ones who risked their lives and have actually fought to protect it? :P

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2 minutes ago, Magilla said:

Than the ones who risked their lives and have actually fought to protect it? :P

When the UK joined the EEC in the 70's it was only just over 25 years after the Germans were defeated in World War II.  At that time many people still would not  buy German or Japanese cars because of what happened in the war. The EEC was sold to the UK public as a trading organisation and not the political organisation dominated by Germany that it turned into.  Both those who risked their lives and those who respected those who lost their lives voted to leave the monster EU what it turned into.

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18 minutes ago, West 77 said:

Because older people tend to have more respect and pride for their own country.

Respect and pride for ones own country doesn't necessarily mean wrapping yourself in the Union Jack and making its citizens poorer with fewer opportunities 

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33 minutes ago, Magilla said:

...about those that fought against "German hegemony" in WW2?

 

Nope :rolleyes:

 

You were talking about old people that fought against German hegemony.... those voters didn't...

 

...those that were still alive went out of their way to highlight the stupidity of it :?

 

Worse... clearly!

Remains to be seen. it's early doors yet.

 

If it's better, conservatives have a good chance of being re-elected, if it's worse, goodbye  Boris.

 

How's he doing in the polls lately? Do most voters share your views, or are you clairevoyant?

 

 

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38 minutes ago, Mister M said:

Respect and pride for ones own country doesn't necessarily mean wrapping yourself in the Union Jack and making its citizens poorer with fewer opportunities 

Respect for ones own country is also respecting and supporting a democratic choice the majority of the electorate made.  Brexit could have been stopped at the 2019 December General Election because any result other than a good Tory working majority would have prevented the UK leaving the EU.  

 

Just for completeness any change in Government's policies means there are winners and losers.   For example the change to promoting greener initiatives means the days of the coal merchants are numbered.  The difference with Brexit is every adult had the opportunity to have their say via the ballot box. 

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2 hours ago, West 77 said:

Respect for ones own country is also respecting and supporting a democratic choice the majority of the electorate made.  Brexit could have been stopped at the 2019 December General Election because any result other than a good Tory working majority would have prevented the UK leaving the EU.  

 

Just for completeness any change in Government's policies means there are winners and losers.   For example the change to promoting greener initiatives means the days of the coal merchants are numbered.  The difference with Brexit is every adult had the opportunity to have their say via the ballot box. 

55.4% of the electorate voted for parties that promised a second referendum, but that’s democracy for you in a first past the post system.

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2 hours ago, trastrick said:

If it's better, conservatives have a good chance of being re-elected, if it's worse, goodbye  Boris.

 

How's he doing in the polls lately? Do most voters share your views, or are you clairevoyant?

We are £303 billion in debt, if we start to pay off our debts like we did after the 2010 election, people will feel the pain.

Johnson isnt feeling the pain, gold wallpaper and a new Royal yacht I hear. Will he still be PM next year, I doubt it.

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Just now, El Cid said:

We are £303 billion in debt, if we start to pay off our debts like we did after the 2010 election, people will feel the pain.

Johnson isnt feeling the pain, gold wallpaper and a new Royal yacht I hear. Will he still be PM next year, I doubt it.

Sources - and don't say Twitter/Facebook. :wink:

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