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Vaati

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The government has rejected the alleged claims. 

 

Nothing to see here. Just a load more stirring from the papers filled with  "what if..." and "may be"and "possibly".

 

It's all the same debate it was being bandied about back when brexit first got voted upon.  

 

 

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The ERG is flying that kite early, to see what kind of traction it's getting from employers.

 

There are a few more kites like that getting flown atm, all mooted under 'Operation Bleach', that are not getting reported. Even the reintroduction of the death penalty (don't expect the HO to confirm that one anytime soon, any more than it -and any other Ministry- would confirm those other kites).

 

It's all about political re- (pre-) -positioning.

 

It's not as if British workers can easily vote with their feet under FoM anymore. And employers are going to need something to keep the cosh on them, after all those EU immigrants went home last year during the Covid crisis. Plus they can be fed on fresh, quality seafood for cheap now.

 

Zero sympathy for those fishermen who were championing Leave loud and clear, pre- and post-refrendum, to pull the ladder to themselves at the expense of other fishermen from Europe. These weren't conned: they were the con.

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22 hours ago, Mister Gee said:

How much longer do we have to endure this vacuous condescending drivel?

Next election is in 2024 I believe, so a very long time.

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2 hours ago, ECCOnoob said:

The government has rejected the alleged claims. 

 

 

Which is worth precisely nothing. They have broken so many promises relating to Brexit that any assurances they give are valueless.

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14 minutes ago, tinfoilhat said:

The Scottish fishermen are landing their catch in Denmark now.  Theyre not happy.

 

BBC News - Scottish fishermen 'sailing to Denmark to land catch'
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-55669168

again...sod em, they get what they voted for

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This idea of compensating people who are worse off because of Brexit is surely a non-starter. Whose money are they going to use to do that with? And for how long - indefinitely?

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20 minutes ago, melthebell said:

again...sod em, they get what they voted for

I feel for them mel, it must be awful realizing that you’ve been conned. The scales have fallen from their eyes very quickly and I think a lot of folk will follow, the farming industry for instance.

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On 15/01/2021 at 11:51, ads36 said:

quote a few articles out today, talking about government plans to scrap our rights to refuse to work more than 48 hours per week.

 

"your employer will be able to sack you for not working 50+ hours per week"

 

they didn't put that on the bus...

 

 

The obvious answer here is to campaign to bring in similar legislation at the next election if you are unhappy with it. 

 

It is a bizarre argument to say that only the EU can protect worker's rights - if British workers want something they can vote for candidates who represent their views and bring forward the legislation in parliament. We should not be reliant on a "benevolent" EU with a worrying attitude to democracy to protect our rights for us.

 

 

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2 hours ago, KinderKid said:

The obvious answer here is to campaign to bring in similar legislation at the next election if you are unhappy with it. 

 

It is a bizarre argument to say that only the EU can protect worker's rights - if British workers want something they can vote for candidates who represent their views and bring forward the legislation in parliament. We should not be reliant on a "benevolent" EU with a worrying attitude to democracy to protect our rights for us.

 

 

British voters voted for the most right wing conservative party in decades, over and above the most left wing labour leadership in decades. The British voter hasn't got great form on voting in their best interests.

 

But we'll see in 4 years when all this is all forgotten. Which it will be.

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20 minutes ago, tinfoilhat said:

British voters voted for the most right wing conservative party in decades, over and above the most left wing labour leadership in decades. The British voter hasn't got great form on voting in their best interests.

 

But we'll see in 4 years when all this is all forgotten. Which it will be.

This is fantastic, the whole argument in a nutshell 😁

 

Your premise seems to be that, if you don't win elections domestically you should cede power to a supranational organisation which will enforce your opinion without the approval of the electorate. It is a dangerous idea to say that voters should be protected from their own opinions and rides roughshod over the basic principles of democracy. 

 

It is for this exact reason that the electorate took their chance to leave whilst they could. 

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21 minutes ago, KinderKid said:

This is fantastic, the whole argument in a nutshell 😁

 

Your premise seems to be that, if you don't win elections domestically you should cede power to a supranational organisation which will enforce your opinion without the approval of the electorate. It is a dangerous idea to say that voters should be protected from their own opinions and rides roughshod over the basic principles of democracy. 

 

It is for this exact reason that the electorate took their chance to leave whilst they could. 

Try reading it again.

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