tinfoilhat   11 #2353 Posted January 25, 2021 3 minutes ago, West 77 said: Italy are the favourites to be the next country to leave the EU. Not within the next 5 to 10 years they won't. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Longcol   597 #2354 Posted January 25, 2021 1 hour ago, retep said: Looks like cracks are appearing,  "EU rebellion: Italy, Spain and France join eurosceptic alliance to leave Brussels bloc" https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1388615/EU-news-frexit-italexit-Brexit-leave-Brussels-espexit-gallois-paragone-somos-espana  No - crackpots are appearing................... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
El Cid   214 #2355 Posted January 25, 2021 37 minutes ago, tinfoilhat said: Not within the next 5 to 10 years they won't. They are only 3/1 so put £10 on them to leave and get £30 back in 10 years time, you could get a better return on the stock market. Of course they need to have a referendum and they do have referendums in Italy. The chances of Italians looking at the UK in five years time and thinking that we are doing great, poor, but the leavers will think otherwise. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
L00b   441 #2356 Posted January 26, 2021 (edited) 10 hours ago, El Cid said: They are only 3/1 so put £10 on them to leave and get £30 back in 10 years time, you could get a better return on the stock market. Of course they need to have a referendum and they do have referendums in Italy. The chances of Italians looking at the UK in five years time and thinking that we are doing great, poor, but the leavers will think otherwise. Leavers are free to think what they want, and to do as they please with their 80 seat majority.  Meanwhile, and irrespectively, economic facts of life -and their inevitable consequences- keep it real...  ...wherein, speaking of Italy, the UK is trailing it for FDI these days:   I'll let those who understand the longer-term significance of FDI starvation, draw their own conclusions. Edited January 26, 2021 by L00b Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
tinfoilhat   11 #2357 Posted January 26, 2021 3 hours ago, West 77 said: Five years is the minimum period of time before the next country leaves the EU. As what happened in the decades before the UK left Governments will try to avoid giving their people a referendum to decide whether to remain or leave. There is no doubt throughout the EU bloc there is momentum and desire building to leave the EU. Now that the UK has left there is hope for others and history has proven where Britain leads other nations follow.  If you want a value bet then choose either Sweden or Denmark at 33-1. Poland and Hungary at 14-1 may also be worth a punt. We need to be a success, early signs don't show that. At best, we're struggling to keep and even keel - the fishing industry that had so much effort put into it - is much worse off. As time goes on we'll see how farmers get on. Now if another car manufacturer rocks up and builds a factory then, fair play, high fives all round. Nissan not shutting yet after a government hand out isn't a win. It's a draw.  But have a punt on Poland if you want. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Magilla   510 #2358 Posted January 26, 2021 Historic English shoe-maker counts the costs of Brexit: https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-britain-eu-exporters/historic-english-shoe-maker-counts-the-costs-of-brexit-idUSKBN29V1B5 "The expected Brexit-related costs of about 100,000 pounds ($136,690) a year would be equivalent to almost 10% of online sales which in turn represent about 15% of total turnover"  An opportunity for our resident Brexit supporters to "Buy British"  Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
RJRB   688 #2359 Posted January 26, 2021 2 hours ago, Magilla said: Historic English shoe-maker counts the costs of Brexit: https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-britain-eu-exporters/historic-english-shoe-maker-counts-the-costs-of-brexit-idUSKBN29V1B5 "The expected Brexit-related costs of about 100,000 pounds ($136,690) a year would be equivalent to almost 10% of online sales which in turn represent about 15% of total turnover"  An opportunity for our resident Brexit supporters to "Buy British"  I like Johnson’s comments regarding teething problems and opportunities in the USA,India and beyond. Is this the moon shot that he talked of.  Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
El Cid   214 #2360 Posted January 26, 2021 9 hours ago, tinfoilhat said: We need to be a success, early signs don't show that. At best, we're struggling to keep and even keel - the fishing industry that had so much effort put into it - is much worse off. As time goes on we'll see how farmers get on. Now if another car manufacturer rocks up and builds a factory then, fair play, high fives all round. Nissan not shutting yet after a government hand out isn't a win. It's a draw. I was reading that the UK fishing industry is now allowed to catch 8% more fish, so not worse off. Just that the EU still retain a sizeable right to fish in UK waters, which is not what Brexiteers wanted. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
tinfoilhat   11 #2361 Posted January 26, 2021 6 minutes ago, El Cid said: I was reading that the UK fishing industry is now allowed to catch 8% more fish, so not worse off. Just that the EU still retain a sizeable right to fish in UK waters, which is not what Brexiteers wanted. Are they selling that extra 8% of fish? Reports suggest they are a long way off selling what they caught before January 1st. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
El Cid   214 #2362 Posted January 26, 2021 22 minutes ago, tinfoilhat said: Are they selling that extra 8% of fish? Reports suggest they are a long way off selling what they caught before January 1st. I try not to be anti-Brexit just for the sake of it, so I dont know. Dont they usually sell it abroad? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
tinfoilhat   11 #2363 Posted January 26, 2021 12 minutes ago, El Cid said: I try not to be anti-Brexit just for the sake of it, so I dont know. Dont they usually sell it abroad? Yes they do.  https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/46401558 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Magilla   510 #2364 Posted January 27, 2021  Ex-Brexit Party MEP says Johnson’s deal has left her fishing business ‘on its knees’:  "I regret voting leave":     Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...