Consequences Of Brexit [Part 9] Read First Post Before Posting

[KinderKid 0]

1 hour ago, Pettytom said:

Maybe you can tell us which bits of the agreement you like.

 

And tell us how those bits differ from Theresa May’s deal.

- Elected British representatives being accountable for decision making (excitingly we can vote them out if we don't like them!)

- End to Freedom of Movement

- End to supremacy of the ECJ

- Ability to trade with third parties on deal terms the British government has agreed to

Happy to supply more as needed... 

 

As for comparison with May; that was a Withdrawal Agreement which is totally distinct from the Christmas Eve EU-UK T&C Agreement so asking that is comparing apples with oranges. 

 

 

[Mister M 1,625]

It is being reported that the DUP are going to vote against the Brexit trade agreement.

DUP MPs to vote against Boris Johnson's post-Brexit trade deal - Belfast Live

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11 minutes ago, Mister M said:

It is being reported that the DUP are going to vote against the Brexit trade agreement.

DUP MPs to vote against Boris Johnson's post-Brexit trade deal - Belfast Live

Not surprising since it puts the border in the Irish Sea. Still, they wanted a hard brexit and they've got one - with the added bonus that they've made Irish reunification that bit closer.

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3 hours ago, hauxwell said:

If you mean how is Boris Johnson's Brexit deal different from Theresa May's?  Then I’m going to say not really,  but I’m more than happy if you want to  explain the difference.

 

The main difference i can see is that May's deal didn't put a border down the Irish Sea and put NI in a sort of limbo both being half in and out of the customs Union the protect the GFA. United Ireland in a decade I reckon.

 

The rest, honestly, I don't know. Oh, we don't have access to ISI database which was accessed 1.35m times last year. So there's that.

1 hour ago, Mister M said:

It is being reported that the DUP are going to vote against the Brexit trade agreement.

DUP MPs to vote against Boris Johnson's post-Brexit trade deal - Belfast Live

80 seat majority? Boris won't be quaking in his boots will he!

[steved32 55]

Govester warning of a "bumpy year ahead."

 

Didn't hear that from him four years ago.

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7 minutes ago, steved32 said:

Govester warning of a "bumpy year ahead."

 

Didn't hear that from him four years ago.

No it was sunlit uplands. Brexit was going to make things better, not worse.

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9 hours ago, tinfoilhat said:

No it was sunlit uplands. Brexit was going to make things better, not worse.

anyone who has any experience of uplands knows they have bumps too, even on sunny days

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12 hours ago, tinfoilhat said:

80 seat majority? Boris won't be quaking in his boots will he!

What about the Labour Party, will they support the Brexit Bill?

 

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13 minutes ago, hauxwell said:

What about the Labour Party, will they support the Brexit Bill?

 

Yes, they need to get the bin-necked racists back on side in the red wall, so they'll quietly back him.

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5 minutes ago, West 77 said:

The Labour Party will be supporting the trade agreement with the EU.  Sir Keir Starmer believes any trade agreement is better than no agreement.  The fact that Sir Keir Starmer would support any agreement makes him unfit to ever be the British Prime Minister.

 

The SNP are voting against the trade agreement mainly because they don't support democracy and the 2016 EU referendum result.

Scotland overwhelmingly voted for remain. They're staying true to their constituents. 

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6 minutes ago, West 77 said:

The Labour Party will be supporting the trade agreement with the EU.  Sir Keir Starmer believes any trade agreement is better than no agreement.  The fact that Sir Keir Starmer would support any agreement makes him unfit to ever be the British Prime Minister.

 

The SNP are voting against the trade agreement mainly because they don't support democracy and the 2016 EU referendum result.

So, if you support it you're not fit to be in Government and if you don't support it, you're anti-democray. Not leaving a lot of wiggle room there to be honest 😂

 

If I was Kier, I'd be telling my MPs to abstain. This is a Conservative mess, let them clean it up.

[ECCOnoob 1,040]

3 hours ago, tinfoilhat said:

Scotland overwhelmingly voted for remain. They're staying true to their constituents. 

Who really cares. For all that wannabe queen of scotland might think she is in charge, Sturgeon is nothing more than the branch manager whose strings very firmly get pulled from Westminster.

 

The referendum was a vote across the whole of the United Kingdom. Scotland overwhelmingly voted to stay part of that said United Kingdom earlier.

 

Clear fact is in the EU referendum that  'total' remain votes in Scotland and Northern Ireland amounts to merely 2 million compared to the overwhelming number of leave voters amounting to over 16 million from England and Wales. With that level of ratio do they think for one second that they have any sort of real influence to overrule.

 

In any event , she has just spent the last few months banging on about how a deal is absolutely vital and must be obtained at all efforts.  Now she's throwing a tantrum and some pathetic show of power by declaring they will vote against it . Considering her already precarious position and woeful performance with the Scottish population outside of a small circle of tartan clad nationalists, it's about time that their party stop with their ridiculous rhetoric and actually focus on the bigger picture.

 

They voted to remain with us, they are with us and they will remain that way until such time as Westminster tell them they can to try and leave the union again.  The UK voted to leave. That is the only result that counts. 

 

It's exactly the same with labour. They know full well that their MPs accepted a referendum would take place, accepted the result of the EU referendum, have voted on several motions during the lenghty negotiations and  lead-up to the deal  and quite rightly understand that they will be suicidal to go against the majority wishes of the electorate who overwhelmingly, irrelevant of MPs personal feelings, voted to leave.

 

Is done. It's over. We are on the 48-hour countdown. Any party seeking to disrupt at this late stage is really going to be frowned upon. 

Edited December 29, 2020 by ECCOnoob