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[sadbrewer 20]

17 minutes ago, Longcol said:

Why?

 

Massive market here on the continent 😎

Actually there isn't, at least in the immediate future. The current European market is a mature market built on forward contracts, to break into them will take time, if it was easy or possible they would be in there now.

   I was reading an article in El Pais and the Mayor of this particular Spanish region was painfully aware that almost 80% of his produce goes into UK supermarkets. I certainly don't want to see farmers and distributors suffer wherever they are and whilst there will be some difficulties at first it will get sorted for the mutual benefit of all.

[Cyclecar 24]

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I cannot help but think that Macron’s actions have the aroma of Brexit enforcement politics. 

 

However, today 1500 lorries came into Dover, mostly driven by Brits coming home for Christmas. The 6000 plus lorries parked here are by command of Macron. Most of them are from the EU.  They might not get back for their Christmas. 

 

Dohhh.....

[Pettytom 1]

2 minutes ago, Cyclecar said:

 

I cannot help but think that Macron’s actions have the aroma of Brexit enforcement politics. 

 

However, today 1500 lorries came into Dover, mostly driven by Brits coming home for Christmas. The 6000 plus lorries parked here are by command of Macron. Most of them are from the EU.  They might not get back for their Christmas. 

 

********. 

Maybe, Macron is protecting his people.

 

We should be so lucky

 

That’s a stupidly big font btw.

[tinfoilhat 11]

10 minutes ago, sadbrewer said:

Actually there isn't, at least in the immediate future. The current European market is a mature market built on forward contracts, to break into them will take time, if it was easy or possible they would be in there now.

   I was reading an article in El Pais and the Mayor of this particular Spanish region was painfully aware that almost 80% of his produce goes into UK supermarkets. I certainly don't want to see farmers and distributors suffer wherever they are and whilst there will be some difficulties at first it will get sorted for the mutual benefit of all.

That's not entirely accurate. Back in the 70s, new Zealand sent most of their lamb to us. We dropped them when we went into the EEC. Now they send it all to China and SE asia. There's no guarantee - at all - it will work out. They might find different markets and put the UK on the back burner.

[Longcol 598]

18 minutes ago, sadbrewer said:

Actually there isn't, at least in the immediate future. The current European market is a mature market built on forward contracts, to break into them will take time, if it was easy or possible they would be in there now.

   I was reading an article in El Pais and the Mayor of this particular Spanish region was painfully aware that almost 80% of his produce goes into UK supermarkets. I certainly don't want to see farmers and distributors suffer wherever they are and whilst there will be some difficulties at first it will get sorted for the mutual benefit of all.

No shortage of Spanish products in French supermarkets today.

[Litotes 63]

49 minutes ago, retep said:

There'll be a lot of French farmers walking backwards after Jan 1st carrying their produce back home.

Absolutely - huge home markets across europe without the hassle of crossing the channel. Let's sell locally especially as it will be as lucrative to do so because the UK have decided have decided to impose tariffs on the EU by not doing the 'easiest deal in history'.

 

Talk about cutting your nose off to spite your face.

 

Boris the noseless, take a bow!

[sadbrewer 20]

12 minutes ago, tinfoilhat said:

That's not entirely accurate. Back in the 70s, new Zealand sent most of their lamb to us. We dropped them when we went into the EEC. Now they send it all to China and SE asia. There's no guarantee - at all - it will work out. They might find different markets and put the UK on the back burner.

I quite agree, but the point I was making was that to break into markets in a big way takes years to achieve...in the case of Morocco they are set potentially to gain significantly and quickly if European exporters default. Tesco ( I don't know about others) have been increasing buying for some time and Morocco's exports to the UK have doubled in the last 4/5 years.

 

6 minutes ago, Longcol said:

No shortage of Spanish products in French supermarkets today.

Hardly surprising if Dover is the logjam....but remember the stuff that is in there is the stuff from existing suppliers sold on forward contracts, new suppliers trying to break into it will not find it easy....if they do manage to get in where do the existing suppliers sell their produce?

Edited December 22, 2020 by sadbrewer

[tinfoilhat 11]

7 minutes ago, Longcol said:

No shortage of Spanish products in French supermarkets today.

How were you for Scottish salmon?

[Longcol 598]

4 minutes ago, sadbrewer said:

Hardly surprising if Dover is the logjam.

We're  500 miles from Dover - and  Spanish produce is available all year round.

[Longcol 598]

2 minutes ago, tinfoilhat said:

How were you for Scottish salmon?

With the festive season upon us, salmon was piled high in the local LeClercs and Lidl - and daresay Carrefour and Casino. Some will have been Scottish but most is from Norway and Ireland.

[sadbrewer 20]

3 minutes ago, Longcol said:

We're  500 miles from Dover - and  Spanish produce is available all year round.

Of course it is....it's not like the old Castle Market where stuff is bought and sold on the spot, it's bought by forward contract years in advance. 

[sadbrewer 20]

19 minutes ago, Longcol said:

With the festive season upon us, salmon was piled high in the local LeClercs and Lidl - and daresay Carrefour and Casino. Some will have been Scottish but most is from Norway and Ireland.

I doubt much is from Ireland, they only produce 19,000 tons a year for the whole of the world's market. Scotland sells more than that to the USA.

Edited December 23, 2020 by sadbrewer