melthebell   862 #1645 Posted December 12, 2020 25 minutes ago, West 77 said: It's good to hear the Royal Navy have put four boats on standby to patrol our sovereign fishing waters.  It's now time the Remainers stopped thinking themselves has victims of Brexit and embraced it instead. Good times and opportunities lay ahead for everyone.    Nothing more than willy waving Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Pettytom   1 #1646 Posted December 12, 2020 Anybody welcoming no deal Brexit must be either selfish, stupid or both.  https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/12/12/no-deal-brexit-means-might-happen-might-affect-daily-life-uk/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
melthebell   862 #1647 Posted December 12, 2020 (edited) Just now, Pettytom said: Anybody welcoming no deal Brexit must be either selfish, stupid or both.  https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/12/12/no-deal-brexit-means-might-happen-might-affect-daily-life-uk/ BOTH......selfishly stupid? Edited December 12, 2020 by melthebell Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Mister Gee   813 #1648 Posted December 12, 2020 7 minutes ago, Pettytom said: You’d think that the military would have other, more important business to attend to.  Wouldn't you?  You would but it might give Mark Francois a chance to don his fatigues, remember him? The last time we got involved in a fish war we got our backside kicked by a country without a navy and a population smaller than Bristol. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
hobinfoot   25 #1649 Posted December 12, 2020 Reading some of the comments on here you’d think there was only one side behaving sensible in these discussions. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
El Cid   214 #1650 Posted December 12, 2020 19 minutes ago, RJRB said: They can multi purpose and pick up a few boat migrants whilst they are at it. Just another example of building walls and barriers in our quest to become Little Britain. I suppose they could assist by transferring the British catch to the EU boats as that would save landing them in the U.K. In the year ending December 2019, long-term international migration continued to add to the UK population. An estimated 270,000 more people moved to the UK with an intention to stay for 12 months or more than left the UK (net migration). Over the year, 677,000 people moved to the UK (immigration) and 407,000 people left the UK (emigration).  The only thing that will stop a rise in immigration is COVID, but the boat people will still get here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Pettytom   1 #1651 Posted December 12, 2020 7 minutes ago, hobinfoot said: Reading some of the comments on here you’d think there was only one side behaving sensible in these discussions. Which side is that then?  Is it the side who didn’t cause any of this? Or the clowns demanding the moon on a stick? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Delbow   693 #1652 Posted December 12, 2020 46 minutes ago, West 77 said: It's good to hear the Royal Navy have put four boats on standby to patrol our sovereign fishing waters.  It's now time the Remainers stopped thinking themselves has victims of Brexit and embraced it instead. Good times and opportunities lay ahead for everyone.    Well let's see: care homes on their knees because of lack of funding from councils for places; three local authorities bankrupt and more to come; millions to be worse off when the top up to Universal Credit ends; a prison system in the process of collapsing; a social care system that has already collapsed; a housing emergency that nothing is being done about. Yet money to spend on warships to help a few fishermen catch fish that they won't be able to sell to their main market - the EU. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
melthebell   862 #1653 Posted December 12, 2020 (edited) 23 minutes ago, Delbow said: Well let's see: care homes on their knees because of lack of funding from councils for places; three local authorities bankrupt and more to come; millions to be worse off when the top up to Universal Credit ends; a prison system in the process of collapsing; a social care system that has already collapsed; a housing emergency that nothing is being done about. Yet money to spend on warships to help a few fishermen catch fish that they won't be able to sell to their main market - the EU. Indeed you just cant make up this stupidity, if it was anything else westy would be one of the first to rail against it as a waste of money. Willy waving of the worst kind, look at me isnt my willy so big Edited December 12, 2020 by melthebell Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Delbow   693 #1654 Posted December 12, 2020 What I don't get is, the Tories deliberately got rid of around 150,00 British steel Jobs in the 1980s. According to the Commons Library, there are only 12,000 people employed in fishing in the UK, yet the Tories seem prepared to sacrifice the rest of the economy for them. What is so special about them? If 150,000 steelworkers (plus the miners) could be axed and just told to retrain, why not 12,000 fishers? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
hobinfoot   25 #1655 Posted December 12, 2020 31 minutes ago, Pettytom said: Which side is that then?  Is it the side who didn’t cause any of this? Or the clowns demanding the moon on a stick? To be honest I don’t think anyone will come up smelling of roses. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
tinfoilhat   11 #1656 Posted December 12, 2020 3 minutes ago, Delbow said: What I don't get is, the Tories deliberately got rid of around 150,00 British steel Jobs in the 1980s. According to the Commons Library, there are only 12,000 people employed in fishing in the UK, yet the Tories seem prepared to sacrifice the rest of the economy for them. What is so special about them? If 150,000 steelworkers (plus the miners) could be axed and just told to retrain, why not 12,000 fishers? 6k. Half of our fishermen are foreigners. And the few boats that sail from grimsby are mostly owned by a Dutch company.  Interesting that we've found the sailors for the royal navy patrol boats, as we are many thousand short already and very recently the government decided to put its pen through royal navy reservists.  Theres going to be some very unhappy people in January. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...