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In addition to remoaner we are also not going to allow the use of libdums or liebore - if you cannot behave like adults and post without recourse to these childish insults then please refrain from posting. If you have a problem with this then you all know where the helpdesk is. 

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4 minutes ago, Organgrinder said:

Still waiting for someone to explain how every nation on earth except for 27 of them, manages to trade without being a member of the EU as we did for the greater part of our history.

We just need to stop being so weak kneed and show a bit of positive courage.

 

its called progress, different countries make agreements and pacts to trade together, you band together to make yourselves that bit better. how many countries are in the WTO? 167?

 

Not that many countries deliberately leave trade agreements and groups though

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10 minutes ago, Organgrinder said:

Still waiting for someone to explain how every nation on earth except for 27 of them, manages to trade without being a member of the EU as we did for the greater part of our history.

We just need to stop being so weak kneed and show a bit of positive courage.

 

Maybe you should acquaint yourself with the major international trading blocs that exist.

 

Then ask yourself how much influence we’ve surrendered by going it alone.

 

Then, maybe you could reprise all of the superb free trade agreements that we’ve clinched since 2016.

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1 minute ago, melthebell said:

its called progress, different countries make agreements and pacts to trade together, you band together to make yourselves that bit better. how many countries are in the WTO? 167?

 

Not that many countries deliberately leave trade agreements and groups though

We can make trade agreements and pacts just the same as other countries and did so for hundreds of years.

Trade agreements between countries are changing all the time and if a majority of us wanted to leave ours, then we can, and have.

Time to stop weeping.

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15 minutes ago, Organgrinder said:

Still waiting for someone to explain how every nation on earth except for 27 of them, manages to trade without being a member of the EU as we did for the greater part of our history.

We just need to stop being so weak kneed and show a bit of positive courage.

 

Because most of the rest are members of different trading blocs.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trade_bloc#:~:text=A trade bloc is a,eliminated among the participating states.

 

 

 

 

Edited by Longcol

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Just now, Pettytom said:

Maybe you should acquaint yourself with the major international trading blocs that exist.

 

Then ask yourself how much influence we’ve surrendered by going it alone.

 

Then, maybe you could reprise all of the superb free trade agreements that we’ve clinched since 2016.

You seem to be as mistaken as John Major about how much influence Europe has.

We were not allowed by the EU to make trade agreements at all until we entered this last phase of leaving on January the first last.

1 minute ago, Longcol said:

 

 

Because most of the rest are members of different trading blocs.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trade_bloc#:~:text=A trade bloc is a,eliminated among the participating states.

 

 

 

 

And we can just as easily do the same.

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2 minutes ago, Organgrinder said:

And we can just as easily do the same.

What do you mean - join another trade bloc?

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20 minutes ago, Organgrinder said:

You seem to be as mistaken as John Major about how much influence Europe has.

We were not allowed by the EU to make trade agreements at all until we entered this last phase of leaving on January the first last.

 

I’m not sure that I follow your English too well. Do you mean that we’ve had the best part of a year to do the simplest trade deal in history?

 

Additionally, we’ve been hammering away at making trade agreements for a couple of years, with anyone who will still talk to us. So far, we have an underwhelming agreement with Japan and a disagreement about fish.

 

I can’t see it getting much better anytime soon. 

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1 minute ago, Pettytom said:

I’m not sure that I follow your English too well. Do you mean that we’ve had the best part of a year to do the simplest trade deal in history?

 

Additionally, we’ve been hammering away at making trade agreements for a couple of years, with anyone who will still talk to us. So far, we have an underwhelming agreement with Japan and a disagreement about fish.

 

I can’t see it getting much better anytime soon. 

It's all going swimmingly ..................

 

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-trade-deals-continuity-exports-mexico-turkey-canada-b1444977.html

 

down the pan.

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5 minutes ago, Longcol said:

Yes, but it is our pan.

 

A British pan.

 

Made by Brits.

 

 

36 minutes ago, Organgrinder said:

We can make trade agreements and pacts just the same as other countries and did so for hundreds of years.

Trade agreements between countries are changing all the time and if a majority of us wanted to leave ours, then we can, and have.

Time to stop weeping.

Nobody is weeping.  We all know we have left.

 

The repercussions are yours to own. 

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10 hours ago, Pettytom said:

 

Nobody is weeping.  We all know we have left.

 

The repercussions are yours to own. 

You've said that before. Fine, we are all in agreement then.

Except I know that the moaning will still continue because you lost the referendum and decide to do a Donald Trump.

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11 hours ago, melthebell said:

its called progress, different countries make agreements and pacts to trade together, you band together to make yourselves that bit better. how many countries are in the WTO? 167?

 

Not that many countries deliberately leave trade agreements and groups though

There are not that many countries that give their people referendums to decide if they want to leave groups. If the EU group had just restricted itself to an organisation for the purposes of trade then our people most likely wouldn't have wanted to leave.

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Why do Remainers have so little confidence in the UK to forge it's own destiny?

 

It's almost as if, to them, the UK is a brand new nation that only came into being in 1973.

 

It's also telling that the majority of Remainers voted the way they did in the referendum because of a fear of the consequences of Leaving the EU, not because they supported its neo-liberal global capitalist big business political union agenda.

Edited by Car Boot

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