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Since its creation in 1987, number of UK students who went through Erasmus:

 

at least 200,000 by 2013 (fullfact.org)

36,700 in 2014 (britishcouncil.org info, Jan 2017)

40,000 in 2015-2016 (britishcouncil.org info, Jan 2017)

16,500 in 2017 (BBC Reality Check article, Oct 2020)

 

But all you're really interested to argue here, is that it is right that opportunities provided by the likes of ERASMUS should be pulled from UK students. Right?

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51 minutes ago, L00b said:

 

 

But all you're really interested to argue here, is that it is right that opportunities provided by the likes of ERASMUS should be pulled from UK students. Right?

(Ad hominem edited out I see.)

 

According to the europa website the programme is only due to last until 2020.

 

"Set to last until 2020, Erasmus+ doesn't just have opportunities for students..."

 

Is it going to be replaced?

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1 hour ago, Gormenghast said:

(Ad hominem edited out I see.)

 

According to the europa website the programme is only due to last until 2020.

 

"Set to last until 2020, Erasmus+ doesn't just have opportunities for students..."

 

Is it going to be replaced?

Whether it is replaced or not, is of no further concern to the British.

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1 hour ago, L00b said:

Whether it is replaced or not, is of no further concern to the British.

It'll  be of concern to the non-British if it's  not replaced.

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This falls very much into the "so what?" category of first-world non-problems.  Universities in the EU27 nations still accept UK students and UK universities still accept students from EU27 nations. 

 

 

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1 hour ago, Gormenghast said:

It'll  be of concern to the non-British if it's  not replaced.

That it would.

 

So imagine the relief when, last July, it was allocated €21.2bn in the next EU budgetary cycle to end 2027.

1 hour ago, Tony said:

This falls very much into the "so what?" category of first-world non-problems.  Universities in the EU27 nations still accept UK students and UK universities still accept students from EU27 nations.

Sure, EU27 universities will still accept wealthy UK students. To get back to the original point. 

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3 hours ago, Tony said:

This falls very much into the "so what?" category of first-world non-problems.  Universities in the EU27 nations still accept UK students and UK universities still accept students from EU27 nations. 

 

 

Meaning it doesn't affect you directly so you dismiss it as insignificant.

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8 hours ago, L00b said:

Since its creation in 1987, number of UK students who went through Erasmus:

 

at least 200,000 by 2013 (fullfact.org)

36,700 in 2014 (britishcouncil.org info, Jan 2017)

40,000 in 2015-2016 (britishcouncil.org info, Jan 2017)

16,500 in 2017 (BBC Reality Check article, Oct 2020)

 

But all you're really interested to argue here, is that it is right that opportunities provided by the likes of ERASMUS should be pulled from UK students. Right?

Less than 300,000 UK students in thirty years? 

 

The total number of Higher Education students in the UK was 2,343,095 in 2017/18 alone.

 

So a tiny, insignificant number of UK Erasmus students studied in the EU. 

 

In fact, more UK students go to study in the US and Australia than to all of the 27 EU countries combined.

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This is very interesting.

 

L00b has highlighted just how unpopular studying in an EU member state actually is with UK students.

 

Why don't UK students want to study in the EU?

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43 minutes ago, Car Boot said:

This is very interesting.

 

L00b has highlighted just how unpopular studying in an EU member state actually is with UK students.

 

Why don't UK students want to study in the EU?

L00b cited figures of those students taking part in the Erasmus programme. If you don’t know what that is, you might like to check it out before you embarrass yourself any further.

 

 

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2 hours ago, Car Boot said:

Less than 300,000 UK students in thirty years? 

 

The total number of Higher Education students in the UK was 2,343,095 in 2017/18 alone.

 

So a tiny, insignificant number of UK Erasmus students studied in the EU. 

 

In fact, more UK students go to study in the US and Australia than to all of the 27 EU countries combined.

In 2014/2015 international students delivered 25 billion in income to the UK. Brexit and additional Visa requirements for EU students will have a negative impact. Up until August this year there was a believe that EU students would be exempt from visa requirements in any Brexit Deal to be agreed. No deal Brexit will mean all EU students will need a visa.  

 

Sheffield is reliant on international students far in excess of most UK cities. The University of Sheffield calculated its international students were responsible for £230 million to S1 postcode in 2018/2019 academic year alone. This excludes Hallam, so add another 100 million there. 

 

To put that into context, John Lewis' national profit over 2018 was just over 100 million. 

 

Underestimate the impact of universities on the UK economy at your own peril. 

 

 

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2 hours ago, Pettytom said:

L00b cited figures of those students taking part in the Erasmus programme. If you don’t know what that is, you might like to check it out before you embarrass yourself any further.

 

 

L00b highlighted the very low participation rates of UK students on the Erasmus programme.

 

Perhaps you may wish to shed some light on why more UK students go to the US and Australia to study than the rest of the EU combined?

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