alchresearch   214 #3553 Posted October 8, 2021 Intel's €80bn European chip plant investment plan not bound for UK because Brexit https://www.theregister.com/2021/10/07/intels_80bn_european_chip_plant/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
RJRB   688 #3554 Posted October 8, 2021 11 minutes ago, alchresearch said: Intel's €80bn European chip plant investment plan not bound for UK because Brexit https://www.theregister.com/2021/10/07/intels_80bn_european_chip_plant/ Exactly what Boris wants. British business can now invest in our own high tech chip plant paying high earnings to its employees. Thats the theory and aspiration isn’t it? Meanwhile our established businesses and services go down the tube. The perfect storm.Gung Ho Boris leads the charge of the lightweight brigade.    Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Tony   10 #3555 Posted October 8, 2021 And I know that each of you had to check because I've run that experiment face-to-face a hundred times or more and not one single person could answer without checking. You can't even have an honest debate on these things. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Carbuncle   0 #3556 Posted October 8, 2021 (edited) 21 minutes ago, Tony said: And I know that each of you had to check because I've run that experiment face-to-face a hundred times or more and not one single person could answer without checking. You can't even have an honest debate on these things. Could the problem be repetitive keyboard injury, in which your keyboard keeps making the same point over and over?  #prayfortonyskeyboard  .. and face to face, how many duplicates were there amongst your 'hundred times or more'? Edited October 8, 2021 by Carbuncle Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
RJRB   688 #3557 Posted October 8, 2021 2 hours ago, Tony said: And I know that each of you had to check because I've run that experiment face-to-face a hundred times or more and not one single person could answer without checking. You can't even have an honest debate on these things. I would have had to check but really didn’t see the point.I would only vote for a candidate who supported our membership of the EU in its broadest terms and totally despised Farage and those who supported his campaign to destroy from within.What a joke and an embarrassment! Week by week we witness the reckless folly of the Brexit vote which was won on the back of immigration.How many U turns must our ministers perform in their efforts to maintain some credibility.  Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
L00b   441 #3558 Posted October 8, 2021 3 hours ago, Tony said: And I know that each of you had to check because I've run that experiment face-to-face a hundred times or more and not one single person could answer without checking. You can't even have an honest debate on these things. There never was one.  Brexiteers always followed a belief (sunlit uplands, to simplify).  Remainers always followed facts (status quo prior to Brexit, to simplify).  It was, and in many respects still is, a dialogue of deafmutes.  But I note that only one side is getting continually surprised (and/or outraged, and/or etc.) about the factual consequences of the thing and continually seeking excuses (and/or scapegoats, and/or etc.)  😉 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
altus   540 #3559 Posted October 8, 2021 4 hours ago, Tony said: And I know that each of you had to check because I've run that experiment face-to-face a hundred times or more and not one single person could answer without checking. You can't even have an honest debate on these things. Multiple people replied to your posts asking about democratic deficit buy you studiously ignored them because the democratic deficits they pointed out weren't the one were thinking of. As for knowing who our MEPs were, the Yorkshire and Humber region had UKIP MEPs. How many UKIP MPs did the Yorkshire and Humber region ever have? Which out of the EU and UK parliaments do you think had the bigger democratic deficit? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
L00b   441 #3560 Posted October 8, 2021 5 minutes ago, West 77 said: Absolute nonsense. Neurone overload?  I can do simpler still, just ask 😘 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
melthebell   863 #3561 Posted October 9, 2021 15 hours ago, West 77 said: Absolute nonsense. Fingers in ears going nerr nerr not listening Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
tzijlstra   11 #3562 Posted October 9, 2021  On 08/10/2021 at 08:59, L00b said: In the hope of finally making some point about some ‘democratic deficit’, no doubt.  Which a little ironical, considering Tony’s insistence on moving on, now that Brexit is ‘done’.  Meanwhile, back to consequences. Investors started dumping GB gilts this week. Ooh, we can @ people now, that is a nice feature, well done SF!  So, @Tony, how about it. We were having a nice start to a well-balanced debate. I challenged a Brexit supporter (any) to name the many advantages of Brexit and you declared that democratic deficit was an excellent reason for Brexit. Just a gentle reminder (again, I am sure you recall the previous one) for you to explain about this democratic deficit point. Just saying people can't name their MEP doesn't really cut it mate, I don't see that as a democratic deficit, because if it is, local councils might as well pack up and become autocratic. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
RJRB Â Â 688 #3563 Posted October 9, 2021 Her you are Tony. Get your teeth into this article. https://fabians.org.uk/the-democratic-deficit/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
carosio   186 #3564 Posted October 9, 2021 (edited) 6 hours ago, RJRB said: Her you are Tony. Get your teeth into this article. https://fabians.org.uk/the-democratic-deficit/ Quote from the article:  "Given that EU legislation, one way or another, affects virtually every area of law and policy,"  If there is a democratic deficit as posited then the Labour Party (or other) at the next election could campaign on the issue, or, if in power could amend the legislation, at least without having to consult Brussels. Edited October 9, 2021 by carosio Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...