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1 hour ago, Tony said:

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Imports from the EU to the UK are receiving few checks. This isn't a problem by all accounts. 

So long as no-one (China, Russia, the US…) takes issue with it at the WTO.
 

In the meantime, this smugglers’ charter situation is a huge problem for every domestic UK business undercut by competitors the world over.

1 hour ago, Tony said:

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Exports from the UK to the EU are subject to onerous and excessive checks. This is an unnecessary problem. 

 

Trade is the same both ways in all day-to-day practical senses, but it appears that paperwork problems are being invented by one half of the equation. 

The EU27 checks on UK goods are the exact same, as always performed in respect of goods incoming from third party countries, with the degree of scrutiny proportional to the existence and depth of any FTA.
 

There are no paperwork problems ‘invented’, just paperwork and procedures resumed from when the UK had abandoned them 30 years ago, when the Single Market was created.

 

Leaving the Single Market, moreover with a thin ‘Canada’-grade FTA on goods-only without rules of origin baked in (ie a ‘hard’ Brexit) and therefore precipitating this return to standard TPC goods customs paperwork and procedures, was a deliberate choice and policy of the UK.  Steadfast, when one considers how many times the UK rebuffed the EU27’s offers of time extensions and easements.
 

Now please explain to me, why on earth should the EU stop the UK from pursuing its own sovereign policies?
 

Then please explain to me, why on earth should the EU stop the UK from experiencing the standard, fully-predictable and fully-predicted, consequences of its own sovereign policies?

Edited September 16, 2021 by L00b

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28 minutes ago, West 77 said:

My local supermarket hasn't any supply problems hence the surplus of food and price reductions.  Brexit is a convenient excuse for all businesses for a variety of reasons. Marks and Spencer has today used Brexit as an excuse for ending a partnership in France for supermarkets  but are still staying in France in the lucrative motorway French services. 

You do realise they were reduced as they go out of date tomorrow don't you? 😂

[altus 540]

26 minutes ago, West 77 said:

My local supermarket hasn't any supply problems hence the surplus of food and price reductions.  Brexit is a convenient excuse for all businesses for a variety of reasons. Marks and Spencer has today used Brexit as an excuse for ending a partnership in France for supermarkets  but are still staying in France in the lucrative motorway French services. 

Motorway service stations don't carry the same range of products as M&S food halls, it's quite possible for one to still be viable with post brexit problems and the other not. You're not comparing like with like.

[Guest makapaka]

52 minutes ago, West 77 said:

My local supermarket hasn't any supply problems hence the surplus of food and price reductions. 

Unfortunately your local supermarket doesn’t reflect the entire country.

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5 hours ago, Frans2755 said:

 

When you write things down make sure like Mr. Farage you don't write down crap. 

Belgium was not neutral at the beginning of the second world war. Belgium in 1944 was liberated by Polish and Canadian troops as was my home country The Netherlands.. I don't see what it has to do with Brexit but it seems to fullfill your sense of superiority.

It was the British, along with a Belgian brigade that liberated Brussels, also

 

"The British played a key role in the liberation of the Netherlands from September 1944 to April 1945, starting with their involvement in Operation Market Garden. British forces went on to help liberate Holland in almost all parts of the country, with thousands of soldiers giving their lives to free it from the clutches of Nazi control. Follow their Liberation Route."

[Guest sibon]

1 hour ago, West 77 said:

Yes rumour has it that the third World are starting a fund raising campaign titled "Do they know it's Christmas" in order to raise money for the starving people in the Crookes area of Sheffield.

Just as long as you are happy with food shortages in U.K. supermarkets.

 

 

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1 hour ago, West 77 said:

Yes rumour has it that the third World are starting a fund raising campaign titled "Do they know it's Christmas" in order to raise money for the starving people in the Crookes area of Sheffield.

Mince pies are in the supermarkets already, its the Brussel sprouts that will be in short supply 

[Guest sibon]

1 hour ago, makapaka said:

Unfortunately your local supermarket doesn’t reflect the entire country.

The Grocer reflects the entire country. Here’s a recent article published by them.

 

https://www.thegrocer.co.uk/convenience/brexit-will-have-bigger-impact-than-covid-on-food-and-drink-justin-king/659852.article

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2 hours ago, West 77 said:

You've lost the plot which is understandable with English not being your first language.  There is a well known English saying which is "Losers brag about how much they pay for something while winners brag about how little they pay for something"

 

 

 

 

 

You could be wright, I find it difficult to workout what you actually stand for.  You are also correct that english is not my first language. Although I went to school in Sheffield 1966-73   I finished my education in the Netherlands.  Your english saying I don't get your point, if I read it correctly you are proud you paid so little for nearly out of date sausages.

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20 minutes ago, sibon said:

The Grocer reflects the entire country. Here’s a recent article published by them.

 

https://www.thegrocer.co.uk/convenience/brexit-will-have-bigger-impact-than-covid-on-food-and-drink-justin-king/659852.article

Having read the article I think that even without his specialist knowledge it is apparent that Brexit has introduced hurdles that have not existed for years.

I hope that Goves extends further than minimising shortages in the run up to Christmas.Overspilling trolleys of food and drink to last over a couple days is ridiculous anyway.

To suggest that the EU is being awkward in applying the negotiated terms,or perhaps the unnegotiated terms is ridiculous.

Remember “Get Brexit Done.”

Well Lord Frost got it done as required by Johnson but with the full intent of shifting the goalposts as required.

 

 

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A little reminder for those who still don't understand, or perhaps are just in denial, about why the EU have implemented border checks on goods being exported from the UK to the EU: Rules on GM farming and cars to be top of UK bonfire of EU laws.

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Rules on genetically modified farming, medical devices and vehicle standards will be top of a bonfire of laws inherited from the EU as the government seeks to change legislation automatically transferred to the UK after Brexit.

 

Thousands of laws and regulations are to be reviewed, modified or repealed under a new programme aimed at cementing the UK’s independence and “Brexit opportunities”, David Frost has announced.

The EU have prepared for our future relationship even if we haven't.

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58 minutes ago, altus said:

A little reminder for those who still don't understand, or perhaps are just in denial, about why the EU have implemented border checks on goods being exported from the UK to the EU: Rules on GM farming and cars to be top of UK bonfire of EU laws.

The EU have prepared for our future relationship even if we haven't.

Smart move, making it more difficult to export to our biggest market - and it's on our doorstep 😎