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On 12/09/2021 at 10:30, The Joker said:

I'm sure the good folk of Cornwall will remember you in their thoughts and prayers.

 

I can assure you most of the people in Cornwall hate the EU as much as they hate the English.

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3 minutes ago, the_bloke said:

I can assure you most of the people in Cornwall hate the EU as much as they hate the English.

They are English?

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4 minutes ago, West 77 said:

Your friend has a point.  The tennis player was born in Canada and has a Chinese Mother and a Romanian Father.  The tennis player does have a posh British accent.  Good luck to the young lady who will make far more money by being a British player from all the lucrative commercial offers that will be offered to her.  

Hmmm, the other day you were busy telling us how you were a "proud englishman".... where were you born? :?

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6 minutes ago, geared said:

They are English?

That sounds like a good way to start a fight in a Cornish pub! Nice one.

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7 minutes ago, geared said:

They are English?

Hmmm... :huh:


Not all of them...


... some are Lizard people! :o

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5 minutes ago, West 77 said:

In England.

A province in Pakistan? :?

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49 minutes ago, West 77 said:

Your friend has a point.  The tennis player was born in Canada and has a Chinese Mother and a Romanian Father.  The tennis player does have a posh British accent.  Good luck to the young lady who will make far more money by being a British player from all the lucrative commercial offers that will be offered to her.  

Given the way the Chinese have taken to her because of her links with the country, those lucrative commercial offers will have more to do with companies wanting to sell products into the massive Chinese market rather than the comparatively small British one.

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16 minutes ago, West 77 said:

Bizarre contribution.  

Closer to the truth than your guff tho :thumbsup:

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Checks from the EU postponed again

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-09-14/u-k-delays-brexit-border-checks-on-eu-goods-as-shortages-hit

 

now July 2022, our borders are still open (18 months after brexit "was done") and the EU has a competitive advantage over UK businesses?

 

well done brextremists

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2 hours ago, melthebell said:

Checks from the EU postponed again

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-09-14/u-k-delays-brexit-border-checks-on-eu-goods-as-shortages-hit

 

now July 2022, our borders are still open (18 months after brexit "was done") and the EU has a competitive advantage over UK businesses?

 

well done brextremists

This is quite interesting but we need to take a step back and consider what's actually happening here.

 

As you say, the UK's borders for goods are quite porous right now. But what's the upshot of this,? What differences has is made? Why should we care?

 

Border checks seem to be few and far between as they always had been for trade with the rest of the world. ISTR that physical checks of extra-EU goods is around <5% so that container from Malawi has as much chance of being opened and audited as I have of fielding for Wednesday.  I haven't seen the numbers compared to the current imports from the EU but it seems reasonable to assume that they are similar. If anyone has accurate numbers I'd be interested to see. 

 

So if that's the case, what's the actual situation once we strip out the rhetoric? Basically, almost all inward goods from the EU and indeed the World come through on a trust basis because yes, business is essentially above board. It must be a good thing that we assume people are honest. The sky hasn't fallen in. The UK economy is booming under very trying circumstances.

 

So what's the point of the UK<>EU border controls if the EU>UK is working fine? Why shouldn't the UK>EU be dealt with in the same way? What's the EU's problem because if the above is correct it looks like the problem is the EU's protectionist approach to trade politics and it's not about the people who are actually doing business with each other. 

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13 minutes ago, Tony said:

So what's the point of the UK<>EU border controls if the EU>UK is working fine?

Not working at all isn't working fine! :?

 

How does the UK protect it's internal market if goods are allowed to flow in freely with little or no checks?

 

13 minutes ago, Tony said:

Why shouldn't the UK>EU be dealt with in the same way?

A better question would be why should it?

 

The UK allowed criminal gangs to flood Europe with cheap Chinese-made clothes:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/sep/09/uk-negligent-in-failure-to-stop-customs-says-senior-eu-lawyer

“failed to fulfil its obligations”

 

The EU has been up front about protecting the CU/SM from the outset, why should they risk undermining that to suit the UK's inability to get it's act together or even do what it signed up to do?

 

Then there's the inevitable divergence from standards that the trade deals the UK does with other third countries will involve.

 

13 minutes ago, Tony said:

What's the EU's problem because if the above is correct it looks like the problem is the EU's protectionist approach to trade politics and it's not about the people who are actually doing business with each other. 

The current UK government are basically unreliable, untrustworthy liars... a system based entirely on trust isn't going to fly.

 

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