andyofborg   11 #2209 Posted January 17, 2021 16 minutes ago, altus said: The industry has been trying to persuade the British public to eat more than the handful of species they do for decades, even Hugh Fearlessly Eat-it-all had a go at convincing them, all to no avail. The British public stubbornly insists on eating largely foreign seafood whilst mainly shunning the local stuff and I doubt Brexit will change that. it would be worth another go Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
andyofborg   11 #2210 Posted January 17, 2021 7 minutes ago, Baron99 said: Only yesterday on James Martin's Saturday morning cooking show, he in was interviewing a producer of freshly made 'Yorkshire' pasta from Malton, who uses locally milled flour to produce the pasta. He was raving about it & used it in one of his recipes. Just as good as the Italian one but not imported hundreds of miles across Europe. As I say, better for the environment & its supporting local industries in food manufacturing & farming.  Just finished watching tonight's episode of 'Countryfile', again they highlighted & interviewed the owners of Yeo Valley Farm, makers, according to the programme, of a quarter of all the yogurt produced in the UK. Their farm & production is totally environmentally sustainable due in part to solar energy. The owners of the farm also run programmes helping the local community including helping rehabilitation of offenders, placing them in work.  Again, a laudable British producer who deserves support & by supporting such producers, people would be benefitting the environment & wider community projects. indeed, and there will be many more producers like that large and small.  to increase the chances of sucess and encourage new entrants it would need a change in supermarket buying policies or possibly a change in shopping habits to use local high street shops stocking locally sourced produce (which would have lots of other benefits) , a change in investment policies in the financial sector or a government backed business bank to ensure capital is easier to access and a sensible industrial/food policy from the government, something lacking in the last 40 years.  none of these are dependent on membership or not of the EU, it's just the various stakeholders chose not too.  7 minutes ago, Baron99 said: As for your posting, "But to be followed by a campaign for roast lamb and lamb rogan josh", do you want to explain further because I just don't follow? presumably a reference to the fact that most lamb is exported. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
altus   540 #2211 Posted January 17, 2021 15 minutes ago, Baron99 said: Only yesterday on James Martin's Saturday morning cooking show, he in was interviewing a producer of freshly made 'Yorkshire' pasta from Malton, who uses locally milled flour to produce the pasta. He was raving about it & used it in one of his recipes. Just as good as the Italian one but not imported hundreds of miles across Europe. As I say, better for the environment & its supporting local industries in food manufacturing & farming. That would depend on where the wheat the 'locally milled flour' came from. 18 minutes ago, andyofborg said: it would be worth another go Oh absolutely! But not worth betting the industry on it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Baron99   794 #2212 Posted January 17, 2021 (edited) 15 minutes ago, altus said: That would depend on where the wheat the 'locally milled flour' came from. Oh absolutely! But not worth betting the industry on it. The locally milled flour came from a farm, just outside Malton, (surroundng area) where it is milled & the pasta manufacturer is based in Malton.  Hence the term 'local' which the manufacturer made a big play of.  Go to ITV Hub. I'm sure you could find & view the programme yourself? Edited January 17, 2021 by Baron99 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
andyofborg   11 #2213 Posted January 17, 2021 21 minutes ago, altus said: That would depend on where the wheat the 'locally milled flour' came from. Oh absolutely! But not worth betting the industry on it. well, if the reports are accurate then there doesn't seem to be much of an alternative Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
altus   540 #2214 Posted January 17, 2021 14 minutes ago, Baron99 said: The locally milled flour came from a farm, just outside Malton, (surroundng area) where it is milled & the pasta manufacturer is based in Malton.  Hence the term 'local' which the manufacturer made a big play of.  Go to ITV Hub. I'm sure you could find & view the programme yourself? Fair enough. Given the amount of wheat we import into this country for milling from places like Canada the term 'locally milled' sounded curiously specific. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
altus   540 #2215 Posted January 17, 2021 10 minutes ago, andyofborg said: well, if the reports are accurate then there doesn't seem to be much of an alternative Apart from trading access to fish for access to market - but that's out of favour at the moment.  The government has made a big thing about investing in the UK fishing industry so it can take advantage of larger post Brexit quotas. If they don't solve the where to sell the catch problem that will just be a waste of time and money. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Baron99   794 #2216 Posted January 17, 2021 (edited) 28 minutes ago, altus said: Fair enough. Given the amount of wheat we import into this country for milling from places like Canada the term 'locally milled' sounded curiously specific. And remember, when it comes to cheese, the UK produces far more varieties than France. There's bound to be a variety of British cheese that could replace your favourite French variety?  There's a stall in The Moor Market, that sells, I'd say, at least 30 varieties of British cheese. Far more than you'd find in Sainsbury's supermarket on the other side of The Moor. Edited January 17, 2021 by Baron99 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
altus   540 #2217 Posted January 17, 2021 23 minutes ago, Baron99 said: And remember, when it comes to cheese, the UK produces far more varieties than France. There's bound to be a variety of British cheese that could replace your favourite French variety?  There's a stall in The Moor Market, that sells, I'd say, at least 30 varieties of British cheese. Far more than you'd find in Sainsbury's supermarket on the other side of The Moor. You'll be pleased to know I mainly eat UK cheese anyway. I even eat a UK produced brie because it's not made with animal rennet. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
tinfoilhat   11 #2218 Posted January 17, 2021 In other news Douglas carswell - one time Tory MP, UKIP MP- has now emigrated to the great state of Mississippi. I'm sure there's something about turning over a new sheet in there somewhere, but I'll leave that with you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Longcol   600 #2219 Posted January 17, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Baron99 said: And remember, when it comes to cheese, the UK produces far more varieties than France. There's bound to be a variety of British cheese that could replace your favourite French variety?  There's a stall in The Moor Market, that sells, I'd say, at least 30 varieties of British cheese. Far more than you'd find in Sainsbury's supermarket on the other side of The Moor. Does it?  Presumably counting 27 different varieties of cheddar as 27 different cheeses.  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_English_cheeses  whereas the French would class eg Camembert as one cheese no matter the number of different varities.  Our local supermarkets all have specialist cheese counters stocking a good 50 plus varieties including a dozen or more from local farms- then we've another 30 plus in the serve yourself cool cabinets -both including a lot of goat and ewes milk cheeses.  Estimated to be at least 1,600 varieties in France.  http://www.socheese.fr/la-question/article/combien-la-france-compte-t-elle-de?lang=en   Edited January 17, 2021 by Longcol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Baron99   794 #2220 Posted January 17, 2021 (edited) 52 minutes ago, Longcol said: Does it?  Presumably counting 27 different varieties of cheddar as 27 different cheeses.  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_English_cheeses  whereas the French would class eg Camembert as one cheese no matter the number of different varities.  Our local supermarkets all have specialist cheese counters stocking a good 50 plus varieties including a dozen or more from local farms- then we've another 30 plus in the serve yourself cool cabinets -both including a lot of goat and ewes milk cheeses.  Estimated to be at least 1,600 varieties in France.  http://www.socheese.fr/la-question/article/combien-la-france-compte-t-elle-de?lang=en   Well next time you're over from France, pop in The Moor Market & find out.  No matter how many cheeses you have locally, the fact remains that Britain still producesfar more varieties than France.  And don't get me started on award winning wines, especially the sparkling whites, which have been trouncing their French counterparts for some years now. https://www.decanter.com/decanter-world-wine-awards/top-10-english-wines-445642/  Even French wine producers bought land in Kent years ago, recognising the growing English wine industry, the quality of the soil & the fact that as the climate is warming, the French wine industry faces problems. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/uk-england-kent-35060681    Edited January 17, 2021 by Baron99 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...